Do you think it hurt them by not ever being part of a real fight team....they both have gotten real far in the careers just off their talent and toughness. but neither seemed to ever care about goin to a real fight camp. Same with Bisping but atleast he got real coaches.
Rampage and Bisping used to train together for a good while in England at Wolfslair. Training by day. Tea by night.
It was a different time at the start of their careers, most people were training in little camps, but yes surely they'd of both benefited from some high level training camps
yes
although bj was briefly with greg jackson, while many years past his prime
Ziggy_Mack -All dayRampage and Bisping used to train together for a good while in England at Wolfslair. Training by day. Tea by night.
Zombie leg BJ Penn all day bro!
#fuckdolce
Yes, obviously. Two of the most naturally talented fighters we've seen but especially in their era.
BJ was under Ralph Gracie in Hawaii? and left? or the beef started when BJ fought Renzo?
ranier wolfcastle -
yes
although bj was briefly with greg jackson, while many years past his prime
Briefly is right. He used to train with AKA back in the early 2000's.
Hurt them more that they both surrounded themselves with yes men and became such complainers
Reebot - Do you think it hurt them by not ever being part of a real fight team....they both have gotten real far in the careers just off their talent and toughness. but neither seemed to ever care about goin to a real fight camp. Same with Bisping but atleast he got real coaches.
rampage was next generation then oyama then wolfslair with a little team body shop mixed in he always had a team as far as I know.
ranier wolfcastle -
yes
although bj was briefly with greg jackson, while many years past his prime
He also trained a lot at team Quest early in his career irrc.