Hardening your fists? Is it worth it?

Ive always heard about muay Thai fighters hardening their fists and legs. Also about how godhand would hit trees while training in the forest. I remember the funny scene in hot shots part:duex where Charlie Sceen is dipping his hands in ice cream toppings. Question is do any mixed martial artists do this technique? Any UGer's seen or heard or trained with anyone who has done these hardening techniques? Phone Post

I think working the bag will also condition your knuckles but all in all theres a lot of debate regarding bone conditioning and many people seem to think its just a myth Phone Post

Do some fist based pushups, add them into your training routine. Don't over do them though or you could do some damage to your hands. Phone Post

 The development of "armor skin" is very important to any fighter, IMO. I don't recollect any techniques to harden bones, but I do know that working the heavy bag will harden/callus the skin as well as compact the tissues and harden the ligaments in your joints to a point where there is a lot less "give" in them, making the impact of your punches and kicks much harder.

I wouldn't say it hardens your knuckles, simply toughens them. Phone Post

You're going to regret it when you get old.

Just good ol fist pushups Phone Post

Drink milk Phone Post

Apparently actually bone hardening in a myth. Callusing will help though. Not to mention that repeated trauma to an area will eventually kill nerve endings. I'm reminded of an X ray of a yo-yo'ers finger nerves. The end of the pointer finger where the yo-yo was always tied had almost no nerve endings showing.

I do the ol' knuckle shuffle Phone Post

Bryce14 - Drink milk <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


"Milk is for babies."

-Arnold Schwarzenegger in Pumping Iron

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The one proven bone hardener.

Don_Dada - Do some fist based pushups, add them into your training routine. Don't over do them though or you could do some damage to your hands. Phone Post

Strengthening your muscles controlling and stabilizing your wrist and arm is different than toughening your fist. Phone Post

So that's why I wonder do you have to specifically hit certain items to achieve actual real hardened fists or just a heavy bag. I hit the heavy bag everyday for a year while I was bodybuilding. I didn't like the fact I had all the size but no cardio, so boxing was something I wanted to do. I still don't believe my fists are any harder maybe I'm wrong. What sort of time frame does it take to do this? Phone Post

Chaz Johnson - So that's why I wonder do you have to specifically hit certain items to achieve actual real hardened fists or just a heavy bag. I hit the heavy bag everyday for a year while I was bodybuilding. I didn't like the fact I had all the size but no cardio, so boxing was something I wanted to do. I still don't believe my fists are any harder maybe I'm wrong. What sort of time frame does it take to do this? <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


Even if it's achievable, what's the point? Unless you plan on punching things constantly then your bone structure should be plenty strong enough for practical purposes as it is. The human body is an amazing thing.

I agree. However it would benefit the fighter. I'm sure you recall how many people were side line because of hand injuries. It would allow the fighter to come out of fights with less injuries therefore less off time and more time to improve.

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frederic -
Don_Dada - Do some fist based pushups, add them into your training routine. Don't over do them though or you could do some damage to your hands. Phone Post

Strengthening your muscles controlling and stabilizing your wrist and arm is different than toughening your fist. Phone Post

I'm no expert in this field.. I'm passing on info that was gave to me from a friend when I first started kickboxing. It definetly toughens the skin from my experience, aswell as wrist strengthening. Phone Post

 Hardening your shins helps a lot.  Most people I train complain about shin pain when kicking pads or a bag.  After they stitch up their vagina they start kicking harder and complain less.  Sport science has a clip about this and explain part of the "bone hardening" process.  I believe "Sport Science Hardest Kick" is the title.  I won't pretend to know much about hardening hands.



Hitting the bag without wraps or gloves can help build up the calluses on your knuckles, but it can also fuck up the ligaments in your wrists.

Learning how to deliver a squared up strike is more beneficial than toughening your hands or shins. Most people that complain of hurting their hands are not setting themselves up for success with poor placement and balance.