"He finished his opponent with a perfect takedown"

...is a phrase I have never heard from a commentator during an MMA fight. That's because unless you're powerbombing someone Rampage/Arona-style, a takedown is just a transition move to get in a position to either knock someone out or get a submission. There is no danger to the opponent on the bottom if you aren't effectively striking him or threatening him with a submission, therefore a takedown without offense on the ground is no different than stuffing a takedown and following it up without offense on the feet. Does it matter if you always control where the fight goes if the opponent being taken there is at minimal risk no matter where you take him anyway?

 Shamrock/Zinoviev.



*Tito/Tanner (was actually a headbutt with giant cracked skull.. pre-crack)

Coleman/Shogun

Cote blew out his knee from Anderson Silva just standing across from him, let's award points for standing across from your opponent too.

Maynard Emerson

Macdonald/Salter

rampage arona was not a takedown, it was a reaction to escape from a triangle


tuf'er imo

FadeToBlack - Cote blew out his knee from Anderson Silva just standing across from him, let's award points for standing across from your opponent too.



LOL!!! I like that one

 maynard finished 2 people with 1 takedown

Lindland-Vitale Phone Post

Take downs are actually one of the most lethal things you can do in real combat in our paved society

 ATTN: Geniuses,



The examples you are giving represent LESS THAN 1% of the TDs in MMA.



Sure, in the extremely rare scenario where damage is incurred from a takedown, it should be scored as such -- but 99% of the time, there's no damage, and especially not in the scenario the OP is talking about.

Jessethebandit - Take downs are actually one of the most lethal things you can do in real combat in our paved society
you're specifically referring to slams rather than a typical single or double-leg takedown. Never saw a street fight end because someone ran the pipe with a single leg.

The way I see it, slams and judo throws are impact moves like strikes and should be scored. On the other hand, dragging someone down should be scored no more than getting back to your feet.