yeah there are a handful of good male heavies just like there are a handful of good women in mma but over all the HW division is a joke.
I dare you to list 50 HW's and compare that list with the top 50 of any other weight class. its a joke. fat boys in any weigh class sport are always the least skilled, and usually the least athletic. People just like watching fat guys.
I mean seriously, Brock and Bob Sapp both got laughed at when they tried to play pro football. A guy named Stephen Neil smashed Brock in college wrestling and went on to play pro ball, he is one of the leagues best guards right now and he never played a down of college ball.
My point being all the most athletic big guys out there play a sport that actually pays big money and they dont have to get hit in the face on a daily basis.
It shows how stupid a person is when they try to put a HW on the P4P list. Total joke, these guys would never have been heard of if the weighed 145 pounds. Their skill sets are so weak they would get smash by an average fighter if you could shrink them down with some kind of shrink ray.
I know this is a bit of a ramble, but it just makes me sick to hear all this fat ass talk lately.
I bet you weigh 160 pounds and have never benched over 185...
MURDER FACE
Nice name man.
wouldnt make my point less true
MURDER FACE - wouldnt make my point less true
Name ONE top ten HW you consider a fatass.
Overeem has the best physique of any top fighter currently competing.
im using the term fat ass to describe the whole weight class like we did back in high school wrestling.
i love how you homo's judge a fighters worth by his physique. im talking about skill sets. HW's have very low skill sets. even fedor didnt have the know how to properly defend that triangle. didnt even come close to defending properly, just tried to power his way out.
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I mean seriously, Brock and Bob Sapp both got laughed at when they tried to play pro football. A guy named Stephen Neil smashed Brock in college wrestling and went on to play pro ball, he is one of the leagues best guards right now and he never played a down of college ball.
yeah making it to the final cut after having no ameatuer football background is totally hilarious.
and all i got to say about Neil "Smashing " Brock is you must not have accually watched the match. outpointing a guy by 1 point isnt exactly "smashing"
MURDER FACE - , just tried to power his way out.
No he didnt.
By the time he was in it it was too late and he didnt even resist.
i was at that match and watched it live. Neil didnt even look like he was trying. He knew brock had nothing to threaten him with and took the easy road to a win. and neil was in the exact same position trying out for the NFL, except he was a way better athlete and now is one of the best offensive guards in the league.
MURDER FACE - i was at that match and watched it live. Neil didnt even look like he was trying. He knew brock had nothing to threaten him with and took the easy road to a win. and neil was in the exact same position trying out for the NFL, except he was a way better athlete and now is one of the best offensive guards in the league.
Who did Brock beat to win the NCAA championship in 2000?
voorhees -MURDER FACE - , just tried to power his way out.
No he didnt.
By the time he was in it it was too late and he didnt even resist.
uh yes he did. he didnt for one second try to defend that triangle the right way. you never, ever circle away from the trapped arm, and he didnt try to make posture, he just tried to pull out and punch. day one triangle defense stuff.
voorhees -MURDER FACE - i was at that match and watched it live. Neil didnt even look like he was trying. He knew brock had nothing to threaten him with and took the easy road to a win. and neil was in the exact same position trying out for the NFL, except he was a way better athlete and now is one of the best offensive guards in the league.
Who did Brock beat to win the NCAA championship in 2000?
who cares doesnt matter to the topic
MURDER FACE -voorhees -MURDER FACE - i was at that match and watched it live. Neil didnt even look like he was trying. He knew brock had nothing to threaten him with and took the easy road to a win. and neil was in the exact same position trying out for the NFL, except he was a way better athlete and now is one of the best offensive guards in the league.
Who did Brock beat to win the NCAA championship in 2000?
who cares doesnt matter to the topic
Maybe.But thats not why I asked.
Do you know the answer?
um, im on the computer so even if i was a 13 year old girl im pretty sure i could find the answer in 5 seconds. whats your point.
MURDER FACE - um, im on the computer so even if i was a 13 year old girl im pretty sure i could find the answer in 5 seconds. whats your point.
I couldnt find the answer that quick.
My point is,a friend of mine lost in the HW bracket in 1999 on points to the guy who Lesnar beat for the title in 2000.
My friend is a "fat ass" and I have a pro bodybuilder physique.( I doubt you will believe me,but whatever)
He can obliterate me in less than a minute when we roll.
Quit acting like the fat guys dont have talent.
im not using the term fat ass literally. its just something we have always called heavies. regardless of build. the point im talking about here is people worship HW's and put them on the P4P list. That list has no place for HW. Its for people with high skill sets that would dominate ate any weight if you could take there skill and put it in a person of any size.
There just are not any HW's that you could take there skill set and transplant it into another, smaller, fighter and have them be successful.
voorhees -MURDER FACE - um, im on the computer so even if i was a 13 year old girl im pretty sure i could find the answer in 5 seconds. whats your point.
I couldnt find the answer that quick.
My point is,a friend of mine lost in the HW bracket in 1999 on points to the guy who Lesnar beat for the title in 2000.
My friend is a "fat ass" and I have a pro bodybuilder physique.( I doubt you will believe me,but whatever)
He can obliterate me in less than a minute when we roll.
Quit acting like the fat guys dont have talent.
Stephen Neal?
it was wes hand from iowa
I think it was Neal.
My buddy is Bill Claussen.
2X all-american from Lehigh.
Toughest guy I ever met.
Makes me feel like a sissy.
And I aint.
whatever, you guys are focusing on unimportant facts, the point of this thread is to expose fatties for what they are. the bottom of the food chain when it comes to skill set and ability. you guys just like watching heavies because they are fun to watch. I have no problem with that, it just whe people start saying this fatty is the best P4P ever its disgusting.