LMFAO at U troll
He IS GOING to get the TUE in Vegas because he has a valid reason. Vitor is a proven cheat and Vegas said he'll never get the TUE for that reason!
Hendo's "valid medical reason" is he has chronic low T. This is why he was first approved!
"We are living in a an age in which it's proven that wrestlers who cut weight for years can suffer from chronic low T. Hendo wrestled first at age 5."
He is a two time olympian and wrestled competitively for over two decades.
Lazer MMA -This.. Orcus going out of his way to bash a pride legend, what a shock.
LMFAO at U troll
He IS GOING to get the TUE in Vegas because he has a valid reason. Vitor is a proven cheat and Vegas said he'll never get the TUE for that reason!
Hendo's "valid medical reason" is he has chronic low T. This is why he was first approved!
"We are living in a an age in which it's proven that wrestlers who cut weight for years can suffer from chronic low T. Hendo wrestled first at age 5."
He is a two time olympian and wrestled competitively for over two decades.
"Hendo's "valid medical reason" is he has chronic low T. This is why he was first approved!"
Vitor has chronic low T too, so I guess he has a valid medical reason too. But I thought you wanted to get into WHY they have chronic low T? Dan himself said his doctor could not provide the AC with an actual physical cause for his low T.
But as usual you did not answer my question. If he were to fight in Winnipeg again, where he knows he cannot get a TUE, do you think he would stop using TRT more than 6 weeks before the fight?
If Vitor were to fight in Vegas and stop using TRT 6 weeks before the fight so he could test clean, would you be okay with it?
"He is a two time olympian and wrestled competitively for over two decades."
Fantastic. How much weight did he cut? Again: In the world championships, just one year before competing the UFC at 193 (without cutting weight), he competed at 187. Years earlier, he competed in college at 190. When did he cut any significant amount of weight?
Two decades? Well Vitor has been cutting a significant amount of weight -- probably more than Dan has ever cut in his life -- for 15 years now. Why are you so convinced that illegal steroid use caused his low T?
Damn lazer mma is getting owned.. 
"This.. Orcus going out of his way to bash a pride legend, what a shock."
No bashing. Most likely all fighters have roided or are roiding, but if any have been lifetime clean, Dan is probably one of the more likely candidates.
I'm pointing out the extreme stupidity of fans -- or ACs -- acting like they know what has caused any fighter's low testosterone, or reviling one TRT user as a cheater and another as a hero.
BTT-RyannVonDoom -Lazer MMA -This.. Orcus going out of his way to bash a pride legend, what a shock.
LMFAO at U troll
He IS GOING to get the TUE in Vegas because he has a valid reason. Vitor is a proven cheat and Vegas said he'll never get the TUE for that reason!
Hendo's "valid medical reason" is he has chronic low T. This is why he was first approved!
"We are living in a an age in which it's proven that wrestlers who cut weight for years can suffer from chronic low T. Hendo wrestled first at age 5."
He is a two time olympian and wrestled competitively for over two decades.
Then denying it all after he said there was no valid medical reason for Hendo to take it.
I'm against all TRT but it is what it is.
Vitor was popped after cheating VS Dan in PRIDe 32. Dan came up clean. WTF do you think that is?
One guy fought and never looked huge, the other not so much, WTF do you think that is?
One guy took a life time of shit even though he was a two time olympian, and was never popped. Meanwhile he fought roided fighters throughout PRIDe that no one even talks about.
"Then denying it all after he said there was no valid medical reason for Hendo to take it."
No, that's what Hendo himself said: "a physical ailment, such as your pituitary gland or something. That wasn't my case". And of course what the AC said, hence why he did not get an exemption.
If "having low T" is a "valid medical reason" to be on TRT, then obviously Vitor also has a "valid medical reason".
lol @ lazer ducking every single question.
json123 - Has Hendo completely stopped taking it? If so, I thought TRT was supposed to be used for the rest of your life? Interesting.
slamming -json123 - Has Hendo completely stopped taking it? If so, I thought TRT was supposed to be used for the rest of your life? Interesting.
No. He stopped using it 6 weeks before the Rashad fight and then resumed taking it after the fight.
gokudamus stole my name iv - "Then denying it all after he said there was no valid medical reason for Hendo to take it."
No, that's what Hendo himself said: "a physical ailment, such as your pituitary gland or something. That wasn't my case". And of course what the AC said, hence why he did not get an exemption.
If "having low T" is a "valid medical reason" to be on TRT, then obviously Vitor also has a "valid medical reason".
lol @ lazer ducking every single question.
No that was you troll
"If he were to fight in that AC again, do you think he would stop his TRT use more than 6 weeks before the fight now that he knows he won't be approved since he can't provide a valid medical reason?"
Even though everyone knows that:
"He IS GOING to get the TUE in Vegas because he has a valid reason. Vitor is a proven cheat and Vegas said he'll never get the TUE for that reason!
Hendo's "valid medical reason" is he has chronic low T. This is why he was first approved!
"We are living in a an age in which it's proven that wrestlers who cut weight for years can suffer from chronic low T. Hendo wrestled first at age 5."
He is a two time olympian and wrestled competitively for over two decades."
What question did I duck? All you do is lie and spin
"What question did I duck? "
The one you just quoted and then ducked again, hilariously:
""If he were to fight in that AC again [Winnipeg, the one that wouldn't give him a TUE for the Rashad fight], do you think he would stop his TRT use more than 6 weeks before the fight now that he knows he won't be approved since he can't provide a valid medical reason?""
So? Yes or no?
"Hendo's "valid medical reason" is he has chronic low T."
Vitor also has "chronic low T". So do you agree that he also has a "valid medical reason"?
""We are living in a an age in which it's proven that wrestlers who cut weight for years can suffer from chronic low T. Hendo wrestled first at age 5.""
Yeah, AND? Do you have proof that he cut weight? We know he doesn't like to cut weight in MMA and in fact has not done so for that vast majority of his career. We know that in fights where he has not had to cut weight, he has weighed in the low 190s...and we know that in the highest levels of wrestling he has competed at 190, 187, and 182...do you have any reason to think he had any weight cut AT ALL at those weights, or that the cut was significant enough to hurt his ability to produce testosterone? Where is your reason for thinking he made significant weight cuts, or weight cuts AT ALL, in his wrestling career?
If Dan's tiny or nonexistent weightcuts hurt his ability to produce testosterone, then do you agree that Vitor's 15 straight years of cutting 20+lb for every fight could and presumably would have the same effect on Vitor?
That's not me ducking I answered it. I also answered the question in the last sentence.
It's also proof you're a (known) Zuffa troll. As per RVD
"This.. Orcus going out of his way to bash a pride legend, what a shock."
I stated multiple times he has a valid reason (if you look at TRT as legit, I do not) in that he has low T and I gave the probable cause, even as vitor
WHO IS A PROVEN CHEAT VS Hendo @ PRIDE 32
does not have a valid medical reason even per Vegas.
What a shock a guy that never looked big came up clean and a guy that looked big at many points got popped.