Heres what happens if student debt is cancelled

From Forbes

 

Imagine this scenario: All $1.6 trillion of your student loan debt is forgiven. Now, what happens next?

Here's what you need to know.

Student Loan Forgiveness

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), who are both 2020 presidential candidates, have different student loan forgiveness plans. Sanders wants to forgive all $1.6 trillion of outstanding student loans, including both federal and private student loan debt. Sanders' student loan forgiveness plan has no eligibility requirements; all 45 million student loan borrowers are eligible for student loan discharge. Sanders will fund his student loan forgiveness plan through a new tax on financial transactions, which he expects could raise more than $2 trillion over the next 10 years.

Warren wants to cancel student loan debt for more than 95% of borrowers, and would entirely cancel student loan debt for more than 75% of Americans with student loan debt. Warren's plan cancels $50,000 in student loan debt for every person with household income under $100,000 and cancel substantial debt for every person with household income between $100,000 and $250,000. Like Sanders, Warren would fund student loan forgiveness through new taxes. Both Sanders and Warren say borrowers would not pay income taxes on the amount of student loans forgiven.

So, what would happen if all - or even most - of the $1.6 trillion of student loan debt is cancelled?

Cancel Student Loans: Here's A Potential Scenario

Sanders and Warren believe that among other benefits, student loan forgiveness would help: borrowers buy a home, save for retirement, launch new businesses, and start a family; and reduce the wealth gap and provide economic stimulus to the middle class.

However, Moody's found a much different result. According to Moody's, the economic impact would be relatively minimal, similar to a "tax-cut-like stimulus to economic activity" in the near-term. While Moody's believes student loan cancellation will improve small business and household formation, as well as increased home ownership in the long term, Moody's also found the potential for:

Moral hazard: Future student borrowers could borrow more student loan debt because the expect their student loan debt will be forgiven.

Higher student loan debt: If future borrowers don’t receive student loan forgiveness, these borrowers potentially will have more student loan debt.

Lower Revenue: The federal government would lose $85 billion in loss principal, interest and fees if federal student loans are forgiven.

Wealthy Borrowers Benefit: If every borrower receives student loan forgiveness (the Sanders plan), then borrowers who otherwise could pay off their student loan debt (without forgiveness) won’t, which could limit the economic benefit.

No one can predict the full economic benefit, which will be driven by several factors, including: how much student loan debt is forgiven, who ultimately pays for student loan forgiveness, whether there are offsets to recoup lost student loan revenue, how borrowers spend their money after receiving student loan forgiveness, and other factors. Would forgiving all mortgage debt, credit card debt or auto loan debt have a different economic impact? Would borrowers who already paid off their student loans get paid back? Do future borrowers get student loan forgiveness too? Are there alternative approaches to raising taxes?

Your Next Action Steps

As politicians debate the future of student loans, make sure to understand all your options for student loan repayment.

Start with these four pillars:

Student loan refinancing

Student loan consolidation

Income-driven repayment plans

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College age student twats are already a gigantic pain in the ass for the real working school. Imagine if those asshats got it all for free

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College isn't for everyone.  Let's start with that truth moving forward.  Second, the us cannot relieve itself if it's largest asset, especially while saying it will tax to recover it.  Fuck that noise.  

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Why stop at student loans? Why not car loans?? Home loans? 

 

 

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The cost of college will sky rocket if the government is going to make it "free."

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Al Cappucino - 

Why stop at student loans? Why not car loans?? Home loans? 

 

 

Don't give them any ideas lol.

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Half of the debt is for students owing over $100k. But that's only 6% of the students total, with 95% for grad school. These are kids borrowing large sums to go to law school, med school and b school.  These kids will be able to paid their loans without issue. 

The largest group in default are those that owe less than $5k.  They are students that went to (got duped into) private, for-profit school and dropped out.  U of Phoenix, Devry etc.  costs are exorbitant and job outlook is crap. They have the debt and no degree. Those are the ones that are really over a barrel.

Mark

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A good article explaining breakdown of the student loan "crisis"

 

https://www.brookings.edu/policy2020/votervital/who-owes-all-that-student-debt-and-whod-benefit-if-it-were-forgiven/

Mark1 -

Half of the debt is for students owing over $100k. But that's only 6% of the students total, with 95% for grad school. These are kids borrowing large sums to go to law school, med school and b school.  These kids will be able to paid their loans without issue. 

The largest group in default are those that owe less than $5k.  They are students that went to (got duped into) private, for-profit school and dropped out.  U of Phoenix, Devry etc.  costs are exorbitant and job outlook is crap. They have the debt and no degree. Those are the ones that are really over a barrel.

Mark

This

Forgiving anything under $20,000 would actually be life changing for the working class and lower middle.

Free everything isn’t the answer. 

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Mountain Medic -
Mark1 -

Half of the debt is for students owing over $100k. But that's only 6% of the students total, with 95% for grad school. These are kids borrowing large sums to go to law school, med school and b school.  These kids will be able to paid their loans without issue. 

The largest group in default are those that owe less than $5k.  They are students that went to (got duped into) private, for-profit school and dropped out.  U of Phoenix, Devry etc.  costs are exorbitant and job outlook is crap. They have the debt and no degree. Those are the ones that are really over a barrel.

Mark

This

Forgiving anything under $20,000 would actually be life changing for the working class and lower middle.

Free everything isn’t the answer. 

No. Forgiving debt by some arbitrary limit is not the way to handle this.

What if I am a surgeon that has just entered into private practice.  I still owe $20k in loans. But, entering into a private practice now provides me with a huge income boost.

a kid graduates with an EE degree.  He took out loans to pay for the tuition and expenses his scholarships didn’t cover. He still owes $20k after graduation. Should we forgive those?  He hasn’t paid a dime and wouldn’t be responsible for any of it.

Mark

The advent of the various grievance studies (women/black.hispanic/homosex) studies and all of social erosion that has come from several generations of Marxist academia is entirely a result of the cynical ability of institutions of higher learning to pump the federal government for money via the gullible students who aren't mature enough to realize that their degress are worthless and the debt is crushing. 

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Mark1 -
Mountain Medic -
Mark1 -

Half of the debt is for students owing over $100k. But that's only 6% of the students total, with 95% for grad school. These are kids borrowing large sums to go to law school, med school and b school.  These kids will be able to paid their loans without issue. 

The largest group in default are those that owe less than $5k.  They are students that went to (got duped into) private, for-profit school and dropped out.  U of Phoenix, Devry etc.  costs are exorbitant and job outlook is crap. They have the debt and no degree. Those are the ones that are really over a barrel.

Mark

This

Forgiving anything under $20,000 would actually be life changing for the working class and lower middle.

Free everything isn’t the answer. 

No. Forgiving debt by some arbitrary limit is not the way to handle this.

What if I am a surgeon that has just entered into private practice.  I still owe $20k in loans. But, entering into a private practice now provides me with a huge income boost.

a kid graduates with an EE degree.  He took out loans to pay for the tuition and expenses his scholarships didn’t cover. He still owes $20k after graduation. Should we forgive those?  He hasn’t paid a dime and wouldn’t be responsible for any of it.

Mark

I was just throwing out a random number to show that the idea isn’t even to help the people that could truly benefit.

I don’t believe in any of this.

I don’t feel sorry for people that borrowed more than they needed for degrees that aren’t in demand.

 

I do feel bad for the folks that got took, got approved solely because the gov guaranteed them, had schools close on them, etc. And it’s just not right that even bankruptcy can’t make it go away.

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"I don't see how the government can continue to offer student loans if they go this route."

They shouldn't.

"Sanders and Warren believe that among other benefits, student loan forgiveness would help: borrowers buy a home, save for retirement, launch new businesses, and start a family; and reduce the wealth gap and provide economic stimulus to the middle class."

So it would allow them to borrow MORE money they can't afford to pay back under terms they didn't bother to read? lol.

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I don't see how the government can continue to offer student loans if they go this route.  If would be gross negligence to continue to offer student loans if you know that people can't/won't pay them off. 

Thats like granting blanket amnesty but not securing the border...wait.

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ITs an all timer shitty idea.  

anthonyMI - 

"I don't see how the government can continue to offer student loans if they go this route."

They shouldn't.

racist!

It's really not a crisis, if you look at the numbers.  They really need to stop calling it that.  

Mark

Students have the ability to enroll at junior colleges for free or very low costs. There is no reason to borrow money your first two years if you are poor or middle class. This alone can decrease a student's debt by half. Basic common sense!

I worked and took the JC route. Then a state college. No debt since I was able to pay off school while I worked.

Even though I would now consider me and my wife upper middle class, I made it very clear that my sons would be taking the JC route if they did not get scholarships.

We will be spending in the area of $2000 per year books at my boy’s JC. The tuition is free. Basically, JC will cost me around 4-5 grand total for two kids (twins).

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Mark1 - 

It's really not a crisis, if you look at the numbers.  They really need to stop calling it that.  

Mark

This.

The Brookings analysis sheds a lot of light on it.