How far down the list does this make Jones' go on the GOAT list? I think the a true goat fights anyone anytime.
He may be a twat but he's one of the best ever sadly
He will be GOAT, but probably not respected as Henderson for example.
Don't care to talk about someone being the GOAT when they are only 25
GOAT = Anderson Silva
/thread
He will never get the respect a GOAT does.
By definition you ant be GOAT if you duck fighters
nightkap -GOAT = Anderson Silva
/thread
GOAT is more than who you beat in the eyes of the fans.
He is not GOAT bro
FinestScotch - Does a GOAT quack?
Yeah, he's out of consideration.
I've always thought he had awesome moves and was a force to be reckoned with, but he's just another cog in the faceless machine of make as much money as you can how you can.
Shame that. He's helped kill MMA and is a stupid God-worshipping piece of shit.
My green arrows might go blank and I might not be able to post anymore for saying that, but it's true.
I defended him hook, line and sinker, but he's proven that it's not about fighting anymore, it's about what's lucrative.
That fucking sucks beyond belief.
UFC is coming to Macau in November and I honestly don't give a shit anymore. I'm pretty much convinced it's going to be a rip-off piece of shit of a show.
If you'd told me I'd say that today 6 years ago, I'd think you were crazy.
Where did it all go wrong?
He wasn't the goat anyway. Still had another year or two of dominating to be the goat. Chances are he will be the goat one day though unless he turns down the fight on the 22nd as well.
It affects his legacy, and I think "great" encompasses a lot of things. Part of BJ's "greatness" is that he fought anyone at anytime. Part of Chael's greatness - despite a really high level of losses and not 'major' wins (major meaning Hendo over Wand major) is that he came to fight and got people excited.
By the end of his career, Jones may be seen as the best fighter to ever compete in MMA. But people will look back at Renzo, BJ, Nog, Fedor, Wand, Sak, Shogun, Hughes, and even a Chael Sonnen and wish for the good old days.
Most of all, they'll compare him to Dan Henderson.
I know who is greater in my eyes. Even if he isn't better.
He will probably be designated to a Lebron status. Meaning he might be the greatest to ever grace the sport, yet he won't be the greatest of all time no matter what he does.
Anderson Silva will be Jordan and Fedor will be Kobe.
He is the greatest dicktucker of all time now GDTOAT!
He is the greatest dicktucker of all time now GDTOAT!
Over and over, Greg Jackson seems to take the "fight" out of fighters.
At least Cerrone has appeared to be immune to this type of brainwashing so far, but too many fighters' reputations and mindsets have been damaged already. Condit, GSP, Guida, etc...
I want to see game fighters, not game-planning business men.
" Most of all, they'll compare him to Dan Henderson. I know who is greater in my eyes."
The guy who turned down more opponents on way more notice? Come on, wiggum. EVERY fighter makes business decisions. Even Dan.
I don't think it affects his GOAT status, though it will color fan and media perceptions for a little while.
However he's got a long career ahead and by the time he has enough accomplishments to be actually discussed in the GOAT debate, this will be ancient history.
FinestScotch - Does a GOAT quack?
Oh lord, this literally made me laugh out loud! Nice one.