How Long Until USA Became a Complete Socialist?

how long until BIG government is the complete BOSS of you?

what makes socialism bad kara?

AbbottMary - what makes socialism bad kara?

where did I say it was bad? I just said "how long"? I've no opinion on the matter. Just a neutral observer.

This is why Americans are dumb. Socialism??? You obviously don't know the definition.

Socialism is generally the people controlling the means of production and benefiting equally from allocation of resources. Socialism can be managed and facilitated through the government, for example - Social Security. Collective bargaining is a form of socialism that is present in private industry. Socialism isn't government = BOSS. The fact that Americans are still so ignorant and brain washed from McCarthy era "Red Scare" propaganda tactics is pathetic.

The United States has moved further and further away from the progressive policies of the New Deal era in the last 30 years. Deregulation of every industry, the continuing decline of unions, shrinking middle class and the rising income gap suggest something much different than socialism. Just because a fucking black guy is President the word socialism is back in Obama is a fucking moderate Republican, and hasn't endorsed any policies that suggest he's a socialist.

Wouldn't Obamacare be socialist? Also i still don't see whats the big deal with calling something "socalist" as a bad thing? Also is the military kind of socialist?

(im a complete idiot, all my questions are sincere lol)

AbbottMary - Wouldn't Obamacare be socialist? Also i still don't see whats the big deal with calling something "socalist" as a bad thing? Also is the military kind of socialist?

(im a complete idiot, all my questions are sincere lol)

You're questions are actually really good.

Obamacare was a cop out in my opinion. Requiring every American to purchase healthcare from private companies is not in any form socialist. Single payer universal health care e.g., Canadian health care is a socialist idea.

The military is interesting. Good example.

AbbottMary you are more intelligent than 90% of this forum because you are asking simple questions that require sensible responses.

I am not advocating for or against socialism or any other type of "ism" in this thread. Just pointing out that Americans use the term "socialism' without having any idea what it means and that the USA is not heading down the path of socialism.

Haha well thank you, but for the sake of optimism i'll choose not to believe you. My main question regarding the topic was about how people are so against certain "ism"s, in your words. Thanks for the info, i'll try to find out more on my own.

in about potato, imo

scarfacedave - This is why Americans are dumb. Socialism??? You obviously don't know the definition.

Socialism is generally the people controlling the means of production and benefiting equally from allocation of resources. Socialism can be managed and facilitated through the government, for example - Social Security. Collective bargaining is a form of socialism that is present in private industry. Socialism isn't government = BOSS. The fact that Americans are still so ignorant and brain washed from McCarthy era "Red Scare" propaganda tactics is pathetic.

The United States has moved further and further away from the progressive policies of the New Deal era in the last 30 years. Deregulation of every industry, the continuing decline of unions, shrinking middle class and the rising income gap suggest something much different than socialism. Just because a fucking black guy is President the word socialism is back in Obama is a fucking moderate Republican, and hasn't endorsed any policies that suggest he's a socialist.

Couldn't agree more. Socialism has beecome a conservative buzz word meant to mislead and cause fear similar to "terror" and "freedom" in the Bush era.

It's played out 100x over IMO and is just another way to avoid real conversation about real issues which is what our government does best now. Phone Post

Socialism and Capitalism work hand in hand.

UNDERSTAND illuminated politics.

CRONY CAPITALISM BACKS CORPORATIZED SOCIALISM.

that is why an argument can be made for both.. and blame can be laid on both.

socialism is the left hand, capitalism is the right hand.

You choose your team and spin around an illuminated axis.

Super Capitalism backs Socialism for the masses.

key concept.

Just like Kim Jong Il Liked NFL, Football, european Hos etc.. while the masses got socialism and the scraps.

that is how it works.

Soup Nazi -

in about potato, imo

I'm gonna raise you a penut. Phone Post

The USA is already socialist: Military, Federal, Social Security, Welfare, Medicare/Medicaid.

And Americans suck at it, mostly because they are in denial. If Americans accept where their elected officials are sending their money then that's the end of the story.

But Americans want it both ways: "All For One and One for All" and "Neighbors for Me, and Me for Them, and I promise to return that band-saw next week."

 

RockMeAmadeus - OP is most likely a teabagger republican. he has no idea what socialism is and thinks Obama is a socialist muslim from kenya. wrap your head around that! lol

Teabagger Conservatives = American Trash

Liberal Democrats = American Elite
Sooooo what you're saying is that all of the have nots in this country with their hands out and entitled thinking are the elite of this country?

Just making sure. You guys are awesome. Phone Post 3.0

It doesn't matter if the system is socialism or closer fascism, or some strange new ensemble of many old ideals. this country is undergoing a fundamental change from its core beliefs of individual freedoms and limited government. The very ground work that made our skyrocketing success possible. Phone Post

EVILYOSHIDA - Socialism and Capitalism work hand in hand.

UNDERSTAND illuminated politics.

CRONY CAPITALISM BACKS CORPORATIZED SOCIALISM.

that is why an argument can be made for both.. and blame can be laid on both.

socialism is the left hand, capitalism is the right hand.

You choose your team and spin around an illuminated axis.

EY stop the educating people....they don't want it ;)

This country is NOWHERE near or even close to becoming SOCIALIST or COMMUNIST. What we are moving toward is FASCIST. What we already are is Neo-Fascist Plutocratic Corporate Surveillance State.

AbbottMary - Wouldn't Obamacare be socialist? Also i still don't see whats the big deal with calling something "socalist" as a bad thing? Also is the military kind of socialist?

(im a complete idiot, all my questions are sincere lol)
We have had many socialist programs since the great depression. There was a time the communist and other socialist parties had a lot of support in the US. The two major parties absorb the better ideas and essentially destroy the lesser parties. Furthermore, socialism refers to a type
Of economy. We could be a democratic socialism. Most Americans are so stupid, that they assume socialism = dictatorship. That isn't necessarily true. Phone Post 3.0

8 years of Obama, followed by 8 years of Hillary should pretty much finish off this country.