As the old adage says, jack of all trades, master of none. How do you guys try improving your striking while still rolling/wrestling?
Ideally, if you wanted to be good at standup, how many hours a week should you spend on kickboxing vs BJJ/wrestling/judo?
I have an opportunity to join an elite boxing gym near my MMA gym, or I could just double down and great striking private lessons. Interested in hearing the advice of the UG.
How about training MMA if you want to get good at MMA? If you need help in certain areas, then you go to a specialist.
How else are you going to learn G&P? In BJJ? How about takedowns while being punched? In wrestling practice? How about learning to time a strike when someone is shooting on you? In boxing class?
You guys complicate a simple thing. How fucking ironic is the statement “jack of all trades, master of none” when you are trying to master 12 different arts, instead of one. You’re trying to be the “jack” of wrestling, boxing, muay thai, BJJ, kickboxing, capoeira, Tae Kwon Do, and Judo and think that all those parts equal the hole.
Stop trying to be the master of 12 arts - there is not greater way to be a jack of all trades.
Break your training into areas: stand-up, clinch ground. Always allow striking, always allow wrestling and grappling. Put it all together at the end of your training session in MMA scrimmage matches of varying intensity.
If you want to get good at something, do that something. Hoping those parts gel together into a whole is absurd - changing the tiniest of variables changes everything as is evidenced by lawn/clay courts, softball/hardball, pancrase/MMA, ring/octagon, etc.
Problem is that people are like traditional martial artists they make fun of so often: stuck in their ways, worship their sensei/coach like a cult leader, bring up lineages, can’t think for themselves, would rather be told, etc.
Flame on crybabies. You’re gis are useless for anything but mopping up spills.
ausgepicht - How about training MMA if you want to get good at MMA? If you need help in certain areas, then you go to a specialist.How else are you going to learn G&P? In BJJ? How about takedowns while being punched? In wrestling practice? How about learning to time a strike when someone is shooting on you? In boxing class?
You guys complicate a simple thing. How fucking ironic is the statement “jack of all trades, master of none” when you are trying to master 12 different arts, instead of one. You’re trying to be the “jack” of wrestling, boxing, muay thai, BJJ, kickboxing, capoeira, Tae Kwon Do, and Judo and think that all those parts equal the hole.
Stop trying to be the master of 12 arts - there is not greater way to be a jack of all trades.
Break your training into areas: stand-up, clinch ground. Always allow striking, always allow wrestling and grappling. Put it all together at the end of your training session in MMA scrimmage matches of varying intensity.
If you want to get good at something, do that something. Hoping those parts gel together into a whole is absurd - changing the tiniest of variables changes everything as is evidenced by lawn/clay courts, softball/hardball, pancrase/MMA, ring/octagon, etc.
Problem is that people are like traditional martial artists they make fun of so often: stuck in their ways, worship their sensei/coach like a cult leader, bring up lineages, can’t think for themselves, would rather be told, etc.
Flame on crybabies. You’re gis are useless for anything but mopping up spills.
Um...
Not what I was asking for bro?
Ttt
Better yet, will cross training boxing and kickboxing help you or only fuck you up?
Bumping this shit incessantly
Uhtred Ragnarson -Bumping this shit incessantly
Just start going to classes for Muay Thai or boxing. Why would it hurt your grappling? If it is a time issue figure out which skill you want to put more time in and focus on that. Are you in some huge hurry to get your striking skills up to speed? More classes for faster results. Not sure what the question really is here.
BigWilliam - Just start going to classes for Muay Thai or boxing. Why would it hurt your grappling? If it is a time issue figure out which skill you want to put more time in and focus on that. Are you in some huge hurry to get your striking skills up to speed? More classes for faster results. Not sure what the question really is here.
Would I make greater leaps just striking?
If I was training BJJ 3x a week, would it impede any massive leaps I could make with my standup.
Thats what I'm asking.
The problem is that kind of thing is completely individual. No one can know how fast you will pick striking up. There is no reason training grappling would slow your striking skills aside from injuries or fatigue.
I am not sure how you DO NOT study them at the same time.
MMA, requires you to fight in all ranges fluidly.
Separating the skills in training makes no sense.
BigWilliam - The problem is that kind of thing is completely individual. No one can know how fast you will pick striking up. There is no reason training grappling would slow your striking skills aside from injuries or fatigue.
I guess the rationale is that you're not eating, breathing and obsessing over striking.
Just to be safe, how many hours/sessions a week should you be putting in on a weekly basis provided you're athletic and have experience (if you wanted to become a better striker)?
Uhtred Ragnarson -ausgepicht - How about training MMA if you want to get good at MMA? If you need help in certain areas, then you go to a specialist.How else are you going to learn G&P? In BJJ? How about takedowns while being punched? In wrestling practice? How about learning to time a strike when someone is shooting on you? In boxing class?
You guys complicate a simple thing. How fucking ironic is the statement “jack of all trades, master of none” when you are trying to master 12 different arts, instead of one. You’re trying to be the “jack” of wrestling, boxing, muay thai, BJJ, kickboxing, capoeira, Tae Kwon Do, and Judo and think that all those parts equal the hole.
Stop trying to be the master of 12 arts - there is not greater way to be a jack of all trades.
Break your training into areas: stand-up, clinch ground. Always allow striking, always allow wrestling and grappling. Put it all together at the end of your training session in MMA scrimmage matches of varying intensity.
If you want to get good at something, do that something. Hoping those parts gel together into a whole is absurd - changing the tiniest of variables changes everything as is evidenced by lawn/clay courts, softball/hardball, pancrase/MMA, ring/octagon, etc.
Problem is that people are like traditional martial artists they make fun of so often: stuck in their ways, worship their sensei/coach like a cult leader, bring up lineages, can’t think for themselves, would rather be told, etc.
Flame on crybabies. You’re gis are useless for anything but mopping up spills.
Um...
Not what I was asking for bro?
the guy with the big statement
clearly does not train or trains in his garbage
there is a reason mma fighters
have bjj sessions or boxing etc
and if you actually trained you would know why
Uhtred Ragnarson -BigWilliam - The problem is that kind of thing is completely individual. No one can know how fast you will pick striking up. There is no reason training grappling would slow your striking skills aside from injuries or fatigue.I guess the rationale is that you're not eating, breathing and obsessing over striking.
Just to be safe, how many hours/sessions a week should you be putting in on a weekly basis provided you're athletic and have experience (if you wanted to become a better striker)?
Five days a week if you have the time. If you are talking for the level of skill a good professional would have? Those guys are in the gym pretty much everyday doing things. I think 2-3 times a week is more reasonable for the average person, but if you have the time and the desire be in there as many days as you can.
boxingman -Uhtred Ragnarson -ausgepicht - How about training MMA if you want to get good at MMA? If you need help in certain areas, then you go to a specialist.How else are you going to learn G&P? In BJJ? How about takedowns while being punched? In wrestling practice? How about learning to time a strike when someone is shooting on you? In boxing class?
You guys complicate a simple thing. How fucking ironic is the statement “jack of all trades, master of none” when you are trying to master 12 different arts, instead of one. You’re trying to be the “jack” of wrestling, boxing, muay thai, BJJ, kickboxing, capoeira, Tae Kwon Do, and Judo and think that all those parts equal the hole.
Stop trying to be the master of 12 arts - there is not greater way to be a jack of all trades.
Break your training into areas: stand-up, clinch ground. Always allow striking, always allow wrestling and grappling. Put it all together at the end of your training session in MMA scrimmage matches of varying intensity.
If you want to get good at something, do that something. Hoping those parts gel together into a whole is absurd - changing the tiniest of variables changes everything as is evidenced by lawn/clay courts, softball/hardball, pancrase/MMA, ring/octagon, etc.
Problem is that people are like traditional martial artists they make fun of so often: stuck in their ways, worship their sensei/coach like a cult leader, bring up lineages, can’t think for themselves, would rather be told, etc.
Flame on crybabies. You’re gis are useless for anything but mopping up spills.
Um...
Not what I was asking for bro?
the guy with the big statement
clearly does not train or trains in his garbage
there is a reason mma fighters
have bjj sessions or boxing etc
and if you actually trained you would know why
I started wrestling in 1984, boxing in 1988, my first BJJ lesson with Rickson at a seminar in New Jersey in 1992, a year before the UFC even existed. You name a combat sport, I’ve trained in it.I’ve been coaching MMA for the past 15 years.
If you are ever in New England send a message to my inbox and you can stop by my gym and find out if I train in my garage or ever trained. Not a threat at all - just willing to show you how wrong you are.
Now, if you actually read my post you would know why your statement is stupid and you missed the point and we actually agree.
Stop being a dumbass.
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