Sorry if a thread was already made about this but I've never understood how Lesnar fought Mir in his second fight. Despite his previous experience in collegiate wrestling would an athletic commission sanction a fight between someone with relatively no experience in MMA against a former champ with 15 fights if they weren't weren't as high profile? Couture/Toney is another example.
It's a fallacy. All comes down to money.
He was an NCAA D-1 wrestling champion and probably the most athletic person to ever walk the face of the earth
Chaelismyhero - He was an NCAA D-1 wrestling champion and probably the most athletic person to ever walk the face of the earthSo what if someone with a higher wrestling pedigree but lower notoriety like Cael Sanderson fought a former champ in his second fight?
Sasae53 -... Which shows the NFL team he tried out for made a bad decision.Chaelismyhero - He was an NCAA D-1 wrestling champion and probably the most athletic person to ever walk the face of the earthYet couldn't make it in the nfl?
That doesn't mean he isn't one of the most athletic mother fuckers to walk the earth. That dude is a specimen.
john joe -.Sasae53 -Chaelismyhero - He was an NCAA D-1 wrestling champion and probably the most athletic person to ever walk the face of the earthYet couldn't make it in the nfl?
as a walk on in his late 20s with no background in football? i would say he did pretty fucking well to get so close, and i am not a lesnar fan at all, i think he is a moron
Except the moron part.
I put a debut pro on my 6th card against an 18 fight UFC vet and my debut put a hulk smashing on the vet, point being that commissions shouldn't have anything to do with matchmaking or proving a match based on experience because rarely does any member of the commission have any kind of fighting experience to begin with
john joe -How close was he too the first team? Not knowledgeable about American football as from the UK but I'm sure I once read he was offered as spot on an NFL europa? TeamSasae53 -Chaelismyhero - He was an NCAA D-1 wrestling champion and probably the most athletic person to ever walk the face of the earthYet couldn't make it in the nfl?
as a walk on in his late 20s with no background in football? i would say he did pretty fucking well to get so close, and i am not a lesnar fan at all, i think he is a moron
WARFARE - I put a debut pro on my 6th card against an 18 fight UFC vet and my debut put a hulk smashing on the vet, point being that commissions shouldn't have anything to do with matchmaking or proving a match based on experience because rarely does any member of the commission have any kind of fighting experience to begin withWho were the fighters?
the Nevada State Athletic Commission derives it revenue and existence from fights coming to Las Vegas. It is not in the habit of stopping those things happening, and especially not when the company staging the fight is a Las Vegas resident owned by somebody who (i) used to be part of the commission and (ii) has huge political influence in the city/state as owner of a major casino
The Mir fight was not Lesnar's debut. He fought and destroyed Heath Herring for 3 rounds before that. The heavyweight division was also not very stacked at the time to say the least. There was nothing surprising about this fight happening. Were you watching UFC at the time?
someone said yes to Minowa vs that kid who's leg was mangled and probably permanently damaged. It works both ways, you don't want to over managemement and arbitrary fear but you need something to prevent promoters that would gladly put a human vs a Silverback wearing boxing gloves for ratings and money if they could get away with it.
Gartlin - The Mir fight was not Lesnar's debut. He fought and destroyed Heath Herring for 3 rounds before that. The heavyweight division was also not very stacked at the time to say the least. There was nothing surprising about this fight happening. Were you watching UFC at the time?It was his debut.He fought Herring after the first Mir fight.
They looked at his background in wrestling.
Then they looked at him.
Dudes a beast and beat the fuck out of the best in the world with little training and serious stomach issues.
XcessiveZ -Gartlin - The Mir fight was not Lesnar's debut. He fought and destroyed Heath Herring for 3 rounds before that. The heavyweight division was also not very stacked at the time to say the least. There was nothing surprising about this fight happening. Were you watching UFC at the time?It was his debut.He fought Herring after the first Mir fight.
I'll be damn. I stand corrected. Time has turned that around in my memory. Appy poly loges.
Bishop297 -He didn't have the technique required to make it and he didn't want to go to Europe. He was insanely talented physically though ad the coaches loved him.john joe -How close was he too the first team? Not knowledgeable about American football as from the UK but I'm sure I once read he was offered as spot on an NFL europa? TeamSasae53 -Chaelismyhero - He was an NCAA D-1 wrestling champion and probably the most athletic person to ever walk the face of the earthYet couldn't make it in the nfl?
as a walk on in his late 20s with no background in football? i would say he did pretty fucking well to get so close, and i am not a lesnar fan at all, i think he is a moron
Sasae53 -Motorcycle wreck had a lot to do with that.Chaelismyhero - He was an NCAA D-1 wrestling champion and probably the most athletic person to ever walk the face of the earthYet couldn't make it in the nfl?
Gartlin -Haha yep, happens to all of us man.XcessiveZ -Gartlin - The Mir fight was not Lesnar's debut. He fought and destroyed Heath Herring for 3 rounds before that. The heavyweight division was also not very stacked at the time to say the least. There was nothing surprising about this fight happening. Were you watching UFC at the time?It was his debut.He fought Herring after the first Mir fight.
I'll be damn. I stand corrected. Time has turned that around in my memory. Appy poly loges.
RearNakedToke -ThisWARFARE - I put a debut pro on my 6th card against an 18 fight UFC vet and my debut put a hulk smashing on the vet, point being that commissions shouldn't have anything to do with matchmaking or proving a match based on experience because rarely does any member of the commission have any kind of fighting experience to begin withWho were the fighters?