Vs machida, jacare, weidman? Vitor? A shredded and in shape shogun would be awesome
He would do awesome.
We are talking about 2003 Shogun, right?
I think Machida would beat him at this point, Machida is finally fighting at the right weight class and looks better than ever and Shogun has slowed down with alot of mileage on him. I think he loses to Jacare and Weidman as well. I would love to see him fight Vitor though at either LHW or MW.
Shogun vs Bisping would be an interesting match
Not well these days. He's lost a ton of his speed and explosiveness.
I feel that weight cut would lead to him getting knocked out easier.
comeonman1 -Good points. Machida looks so good and healthy and probably got hit less than shogun has.
I think Machida would beat him at this point, Machida is finally fighting at the right weight class and looks better than ever and Shogun has slowed down with alot of mileage on him. I think he loses to Jacare and Weidman as well. I would love to see him fight Vitor though at either LHW or MW.
I been wanting to see it and still do.
Too late.
Shogun with the work ethic of a mighty mouse for instance wouldve been some supernova type shit at 185.
Admiral Iraqbar - Not well these days. He's lost a ton of his speed and explosiveness.
This. I have no idea why people are so obsessed with watching fighters drop a weight class after a string of losses. He is losing now because he isnt the same fighter he used to be. He was so good that even as a shell of himself he is still dangerous and will have a few flashes of brilliance from time to time. Instead of a bunch of green marks in a row on fight finder, he will now start having red ones here and there.
Same thing happened to Nog, Rampage, Wanderlei, CroCop, Hendo, Liddel, Frye and plenty of others.
Bisping would KO Shogun.
guys like Jacare, Machida, Weidman, are all too young for Shogun. Sadly, Shogun is on the tail end of his career, while these 3 are really in their primes.
Has nothing to do with weight, now. He's an all time great but has taken too much damage
Nexuscrawlers -He's actually younger than Jacare and Lyoto, but he has a lot more mileage than both.
guys like Jacare, Machida, Weidman, are all too young for Shogun. Sadly, Shogun is on the tail end of his career, while these 3 are really in their primes.
He has potential to knockout guys like Machida, Belfort, Weidman, and Anderson... However, I can see him losing to the Ryan Jimmos of the world Guys who know how to manage the clock.
He would still be small next to Weidman and rockhold, same as machida when he fought Chris.
I respect the hell out of them for fighting at lhw despite their size, but guys around their size these days are trying to get down to welterweight.
I am of the opinion that a guy like machida is a more skilled fighter than a Weidman but the size difference puts Chris over, and that's just as much a part of modern mma as the fight.
I hate weight cutting, I wish there were a way to make sure people all Fought opponents of a similar size.
No disrespect to rockhold and Weidman I just think shogun would still be small compared to those two guys.
"I hate weight cutting, I wish there were a way to make sure people all Fought opponents of a similar size."
Machida or Hendo against Johny Hendricks seems like it would be kind of a stupid matchup and no more "fair" than Machida vs Weidman.
Shogun, like Machida before him, is fighting at the wrong weight class. With the belly fat he carries, I have no doubt he could make weight at 185.
He would probably win a few, lose a few. But he is my favourite fighter and I really hope he retires. As a fight fan I seem to get emotionally tied to certain fighters and seeing shogun knocked out is hard to watch. I worry for his long term health
orcus - "I hate weight cutting, I wish there were a way to make sure people all Fought opponents of a similar size."Is Hendricks that much smaller than machida?
Machida or Hendo against Johny Hendricks seems like it would be kind of a stupid matchup and no more "fair" than Machida vs Weidman.
What has hendo got to do with anything?