traneufcisback -
No, that is not the reason. The reason is that Sauo makes EVERYONE start at white belt at his academy, regardless of affiliation or rank.
Not true
traneufcisback -
No, that is not the reason. The reason is that Sauo makes EVERYONE start at white belt at his academy, regardless of affiliation or rank.
ChangoBravo - I can understand with some, but If I had a BB from Carlson there is no FUCKING WAY I would demote myself to train with ANYONE!!!
Chango
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But I'm pretty sure it was Jr and not Sr. who gave Torres his BB....
JRockwell - I wonder if it's possible or will one day be possible to get black belts from multiple instructors in BJJ/GJJ...like academics can have PHD's from various universities. You could be a black belt under a particular instructor/association that focuses mostly on sport BJJ, and not have the same depth of expertise in self defense as one who trains at a GJJ school, for example (and vice versa). It seems wrong that it one had the time and the dedication, that one couldn't achieve multiple black belts under multiple instructors if there were not conflicts of interests as far as competition goes. (Insert BJJ drama and politics...here!)
Anarkis -scyman -traneufcisback -
No, that is not the reason. The reason is that Sauo makes EVERYONE start at white belt at his academy, regardless of affiliation or rank.
Not true
He demotes the majority of students who come to him already belted.
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum.posts&forum=11&thread=1892472&page=3
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72661468
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f12/saulo-ribeiro-downgrading-purple-belts-white-belts-purple-stripes-891916/index3.html
12 - bb from torrance by more then a few bb's,and yes many that have left have come back.
So no one has ever heard directly from anyone who Saulo demoted. They all either read about it online or hear it through the rumor mill. There's people on a lot of these forums, that for some reason or another will continue these rumors (not sure what their agenda is by doing so).
I've trained at UNIJJ almost from the beginning. I've seen a few people demote themselves, and when I ask why they always tell me it's because they do not feel like they're even close to being on the same level as their peers there. I've never heard Saulo or Xande even mention any type of demotions. I think they're both way too respectful of other instructors to do that
ChangoBravo - I can understand with some, but If I had a BB from Carlson there is no FUCKING WAY I would demote myself to train with ANYONE!!!
Chango
12 - bb from torrance by more then a few bb's,and yes many that have left have come back.
No chance they're just being polite or giving u lip service???
And btw, I'm not bashing the Gracie Academy.
Anarkis -scyman - So no one has ever heard directly from anyone who Saulo demoted. They all either read about it online or hear it through the rumor mill. There's people on a lot of these forums, that for some reason or another will continue these rumors (not sure what their agenda is by doing so).
I've trained at UNIJJ almost from the beginning. I've seen a few people demote themselves, and when I ask why they always tell me it's because they do not feel like they're even close to being on the same level as their peers there. I've never heard Saulo or Xande even mention any type of demotions. I think they're both way too respectful of other instructors to do that
I have met people demoted by Saulo, including a Brown Belt. I was in San Diego when he opened his school and did a walk through. Maybe its a practice he retired in the past couple years, in the begging it was something he definitely did. I think demotion is a bad word though. He would give you a white belt with a stripe of the color you achieved. Then you would work back up to your belt level by learning his system.
I can't see Jr. taking that lightly.
Anarkis -scyman -Anarkis -scyman - So no one has ever heard directly from anyone who Saulo demoted. They all either read about it online or hear it through the rumor mill. There's people on a lot of these forums, that for some reason or another will continue these rumors (not sure what their agenda is by doing so).
I've trained at UNIJJ almost from the beginning. I've seen a few people demote themselves, and when I ask why they always tell me it's because they do not feel like they're even close to being on the same level as their peers there. I've never heard Saulo or Xande even mention any type of demotions. I think they're both way too respectful of other instructors to do that
I have met people demoted by Saulo, including a Brown Belt. I was in San Diego when he opened his school and did a walk through. Maybe its a practice he retired in the past couple years, in the begging it was something he definitely did. I think demotion is a bad word though. He would give you a white belt with a stripe of the color you achieved. Then you would work back up to your belt level by learning his system.
Who's the brown belt he demoted? I got there a few months after they opened and did not see a single person with a white belt with colored stripe. I have never even heard of anyone mentioning that happening, and we all know how the gym rumors and gossip go around. If it ever happened, you bet everyone would have been talking about it.
Saulo did that interview prior to opening the school. Apparently, his initial vision of the school did materialize but to this day people are still trying to use it against him. Again, not sure who Anarkis or many of these others are, but they seem to have someone personal against Saulo because they continue to spread these rumors.
Did you listen to the interview I posted above where Saulo says that is what he does? I guess to answer your question, Saulo spread the rumor when he opened his school. As I said its probably something he initially did and dropped. I moved out of San Diego about three years ago so this was still going on when I was there.
I met him at fashion valley mall at Kay jewelers while chatting with his buddy who trained at Alliance but moved to Saulos. Maybe he got pissed off about the situation and left after a week. Who knows. We also had another guy who came into throwdown a couple times during open mat who trained at Saulo's and chatted about it. He got demoted from Blue to White. He talked about learning Portuguese and how Saulo treated it like a real school with books.
lol @ anarkasis. do i get an apology?
ChangoBravo - In the interview after his last fight, Stephan Bonner talked about how he was a Carlson BB, but had been training recently in Vegas and had earned his BB from Sergio Penha.
Chango