I Feel Sorry For Kids Today

HokutoShinken -

I think girls still have it well, although the simple things were probably part of the fun of growing up back in the day. Boys, on the other hand, are being brainwashed into gays by the establishment.


 

I do think that boys are affected more by the cultural shifts while girls continue to reap the benefits.

Dashabox - 
Aarin -

In 20-30 years, when todays kids are our age, I bet they will be saying the same thing.  We live in a world where rapid change is among us.  


I am super glad that I was not born 5-10 years later because I would have been forced ADD/ADHD meds...then anti-depresants, then a sleep aid...etc.  

Definitely. 


This next gen of kids (My kid) will have a unique experience with all this racial BS and the political strife. 


But they will probably have access to tech during their childhoods that we can't even fathom right now.  (Not sure if that is a positive though)


But yeah, we all romanticize our childhoods and the time frames they happened in.  But the 80's were pretty awesome.


The 80's were awesome!  I would not trade my experiences for a later period for anything...most anything.

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You can't even put your dog in the back of a pickup truck anymore.

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I would've killed for something like Wikipedia back in the 90's and early two thousands.

A curious kid like me with all the worlds information in my pocket would've loved  life.

 

Not to mention all the porn dope ass games and girls sending titty pics through text.

 

You had to work hard to see some girls titties back in the day.

 

Shit is not bad, outside still exists if they want it.

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The biggest thing that really never gets talked about is technology. I rarely see kids playing outside. In fact the other day some kids were at a playground and I couldn't believe it......it's just something you don't see much.  Kids are constantly bored because they don't know how to have fun.  My daughter and her friends are the same way.  We had so many things; cops and robbers, football, hide and seek and all kinds of stuff outside. We'd be out all day.  If someone had illegal fireworks it was the best thing.  If someone got a new appliance and we got the box we'd make forts and stuff.  We had a store to get penny candy or buy baseball cards. 

Kids not can't figure out why they lose pleasure with their phones because the more they look at it the more there is diminishing returns.

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Oh yeah, if everyone had a dangerous white trash childhood the society would be saved. 

Dashabox -

If you don't feel like reading my usual wall of text, just skip down to the list


 


Look, kids today have a lot of advantages we never had, but in a lot of ways, I think we (60's,70's,80's kids) had it much better.  Kids today seem to have a more adult life passed off as a childhood nowadays.  My kid has toys, snacks and general entertainment that I could only have wished for when I was a kid.  We only had 4 channels growing up, we were pretty poor.  But man kids seem repressed today, I think we coddle them way too much.  I am constantly battling the wife about just letting our daughter be a kid and that it is okay if she gets hurt (Within reason obviously), that it will build character and teach her valuable lessons.


 


Davefu posted a Porkies movie in another thread and it got me thinking about my childhood in the 80's and all the things we did that would probably get parents arrested today and be front-page news.


Granted we were poor and my parents really didn't give a shit about me so I am sure that I had more freedom than some but I'm sure most 80's kids can relate to some of these things we did as 80's kids in the city: (Country kids had way more freedom I'm sure)


 


-Drove around town in the back of a pick-up with a bunch of our buddies with no hassles.


-Woke up, ran out the door and didn't return until we were hungry.


-Spent most days down at the creek, roaming the forest.


-Layed under the back window of the car sans seatbelt, while the car was in motion, on the highway...  No one beeped or yelled or called the police.  Seatbelts in the early 80's were more of a suggestion.


-No one ever called the cops on anyone else or got in each other's business for petty issues.


-It wasn't a big deal to play with pellet guns and fireworks.


-We had way, way, way less supervision.


 


Keep in mind too that there was much more crime back then too, yet we had more freedom.


 


What are some awesome things from our childhood that kids today could never do or would get parents in shit today?  Add to the list.


 


 

"Spent most days down at the creek, roaming the forest."


 


I was thinking about this recently. I was watching the movie Stand By Me, and it occurred to me that kids today don't seem to have adventures in the woods like we used to as kids. We didn't go on over night adventures to see a dead body like the movie, but we at least played in the woods. Kids today just want to be inside playing video games 

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HillboFrateTrane -

Oh yeah, if everyone had a dangerous white trash childhood the society would be saved. 

Dude, we had independence. Two teenagers in the family took a dozen block walk to the gas station. Got there and called their mom to pick them up because it was too hot. Mid 80’s temps. We’re talking 14 and 17 year old. I could have done that shit at 6 crossing busy streets etc. These kids are completely helpless. Not my kids mind you.

I sort of agree, but I also recognize this sort of thread or equivalent could be created for nearly every generation.

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ABCTT_sakurabas ear -

I remember flying to Disney from NJ to FL and the smoke being so thick from all the people smoking that my Dad was fanning his face as we played cards in the first row of Non-smoking.  
 


Just yelling “going out to play” at some time in the morning during the summer and Mom yelling  back “dinner is at 5:30, be home or don’t eat”


 


My Uncle damn near drowning me, my brother and our cousin Jason all while the other adults laughed as I thought I was dying.  
 


When school was closed for a snow day and leaving as early as possible to go door to door hustling for $10-$20 to shovel driveways and sidewalks.   Then without fail asking to go to footlocker the next available day to buy cool sneakers.  

In fairness, he tried to drown me too and Jason turned out to he a psychopath.  Otherwise everything else here is accurate.  We also caught beatings left and right for any transgression and many a wooden spoon was broken over our backsides.  But hey, we learned there are consequences for your actions. 
 


conversely I had to sit your 11 year old nephew down today and go over what is and what is not appropriate to post on a tik tok video.  Because kids are stupid and social media will fuck them in the end.  

I hear what original poster said. Like others have said technology (social media) and gaming has hurt the development of younger generations, along with helicopter parenting. I am a professor at a university and every summer we have summer interns to supervise, and sadly a lot of these kids are like what the OP has said, coddled, lack of independent thinking, etc. I kinda feel that I have play a parenting role that their parents didn't fufill. Oh well.

As a side note, the internship program we run relates to developing innovative creative thinking in college students. One of the studies that we cite in our grant is a well known paper that says creativity and innovative thinking is decreasing for every young generation. Which is bad because the world needs innovative thinkers to solve some of our problems - big and small.

EDIT: There's a possibility that I might be selectively biased in my assessment. Most of these kids I encounter are upper-middle to upper kids. Perhaps more middle to lower economic kids may differ.

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I really do believe that our generation (bornin the 80s) is the last really free generation. 

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There are many great outdoor public swimming pools where I'm at. Last year they took out the big diving boards. Even the girl lifeguards were rolling their eyes as they said someone downtown wanted to make himself (or herself...) useful by adding restrictions, recalling no accidents ever. This year, they also took out the small springboards. So ridiculous. BUBBLE WRAP YOUR KIDS Y'ALLLLL

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Aarin -
Dashabox - 
Aarin -

In 20-30 years, when todays kids are our age, I bet they will be saying the same thing.  We live in a world where rapid change is among us.  


I am super glad that I was not born 5-10 years later because I would have been forced ADD/ADHD meds...then anti-depresants, then a sleep aid...etc.  

Definitely. 


This next gen of kids (My kid) will have a unique experience with all this racial BS and the political strife. 


But they will probably have access to tech during their childhoods that we can't even fathom right now.  (Not sure if that is a positive though)


But yeah, we all romanticize our childhoods and the time frames they happened in.  But the 80's were pretty awesome.


The 80's were awesome!  I would not trade my experiences for a later period for anything...most anything.

Agreed brother.

Lazarus -

You can't even put your dog in the back of a pickup truck anymore.

For serious?


I really hate how we can't even have fires in our backyards within the city.  Think back on all the shit we could do in the 80's and how much of those things we have left and it is depressing.

Precise_Improvement -

I would've killed for something like Wikipedia back in the 90's and early two thousands.

A curious kid like me with all the worlds information in my pocket would've loved  life.


 


Not to mention all the porn dope ass games and girls sending titty pics through text.


 


You had to work hard to see some girls titties back in the day.


 


Shit is not bad, outside still exists if they want it.

I was a stat and fact nerd when I was a kid and had a crazy memory back in the day so I understand what you are saying.  But, some of my better memories revolve around an Encyclopedia Britannica set my mother bought for me when I was around 8 years old. I loved reading those.


As for the porn, I think I was better off for not having unlimited access to that as a kid.  Seeing a boob was a rare occurance when I was a kid but man, when it happened it was fucking magical lol  plus the fact that we didn't have that, along with texting when we were kids probably kept us of some potential serious criminal trouble lol

Outkaster -

The biggest thing that really never gets talked about is technology. I rarely see kids playing outside. In fact the other day some kids were at a playground and I couldn't believe it......it's just something you don't see much.  Kids are constantly bored because they don't know how to have fun.  My daughter and her friends are the same way.  We had so many things; cops and robbers, football, hide and seek and all kinds of stuff outside. We'd be out all day.  If someone had illegal fireworks it was the best thing.  If someone got a new appliance and we got the box we'd make forts and stuff.  We had a store to get penny candy or buy baseball cards. 


Kids not can't figure out why they lose pleasure with their phones because the more they look at it the more there is diminishing returns.

Good points.  Tech def has a down side for sure.  I hate carrying a cell phone and usually leave it at home.


 


Penny candies, shit I forgot all about that.  Finding a nickel was cause for celebration and a trip to the corner store to buy candy lol  

sicko -
Dashabox -

If you don't feel like reading my usual wall of text, just skip down to the list


 


Look, kids today have a lot of advantages we never had, but in a lot of ways, I think we (60's,70's,80's kids) had it much better.  Kids today seem to have a more adult life passed off as a childhood nowadays.  My kid has toys, snacks and general entertainment that I could only have wished for when I was a kid.  We only had 4 channels growing up, we were pretty poor.  But man kids seem repressed today, I think we coddle them way too much.  I am constantly battling the wife about just letting our daughter be a kid and that it is okay if she gets hurt (Within reason obviously), that it will build character and teach her valuable lessons.


 


Davefu posted a Porkies movie in another thread and it got me thinking about my childhood in the 80's and all the things we did that would probably get parents arrested today and be front-page news.


Granted we were poor and my parents really didn't give a shit about me so I am sure that I had more freedom than some but I'm sure most 80's kids can relate to some of these things we did as 80's kids in the city: (Country kids had way more freedom I'm sure)


 


-Drove around town in the back of a pick-up with a bunch of our buddies with no hassles.


-Woke up, ran out the door and didn't return until we were hungry.


-Spent most days down at the creek, roaming the forest.


-Layed under the back window of the car sans seatbelt, while the car was in motion, on the highway...  No one beeped or yelled or called the police.  Seatbelts in the early 80's were more of a suggestion.


-No one ever called the cops on anyone else or got in each other's business for petty issues.


-It wasn't a big deal to play with pellet guns and fireworks.


-We had way, way, way less supervision.


 


Keep in mind too that there was much more crime back then too, yet we had more freedom.


 


What are some awesome things from our childhood that kids today could never do or would get parents in shit today?  Add to the list.


 


 

"Spent most days down at the creek, roaming the forest."


 


I was thinking about this recently. I was watching the movie Stand By Me, and it occurred to me that kids today don't seem to have adventures in the woods like we used to as kids. We didn't go on over night adventures to see a dead body like the movie, but we at least played in the woods. Kids today just want to be inside playing video games 

Our place backed onto a park with a good amount of forest, a creek that is famous for it's salmon runs, a fishing hole and countless miles of trails and boardwalks.  All types of animals too, that was my playground, I take my daughter to it and she loves it as well.


I beleive the forest can be a great place to develop character in a child.


 


 

Ministry of Truth -

I sort of agree, but I also recognize this sort of thread or equivalent could be created for nearly every generation.

True.  We all romanticize our childhoods to a certain extent.  


But I do think that sort of childhood builds a lot more charachter than the instant gratification with no work input kids experience today.  


 

Kona Silat -

I hear what original poster said. Like others have said technology (social media) and gaming has hurt the development of younger generations, along with helicopter parenting. I am a professor at a university and every summer we have summer interns to supervise, and sadly a lot of these kids are like what the OP has said, coddled, lack of independent thinking, etc. I kinda feel that I have play a parenting role that their parents didn't fufill. Oh well.


As a side note, the internship program we run relates to developing innovative creative thinking in college students. One of the studies that we cite in our grant is a well known paper that says creativity and innovative thinking is decreasing for every young generation. Which is bad because the world needs innovative thinkers to solve some of our problems - big and small.


EDIT: There's a possibility that I might be selectively biased in my assessment. Most of these kids I encounter are upper-middle to upper kids. Perhaps more middle to lower economic kids may differ.

I have also heard about the creativity and innovation crunch.  


In your professional opinion, how much of that do you think could be driven by a relative lack of hardship?