I want to be a UFC judge.I know the submission game.I know the standup game.I've actively followed this sport since 1994 and I feel I would do a lot better than some of the clowns that have been judging the fights lately.I know that the judges are picked by the Nevada athletic commission but how does one get on their list.I think we need UFC judges that actually know what they are looking for and I think I fit that criteria if given the opportubity.Zuffa make it happen
i think ud be a good judge
ttt for Miller as UFC judge!!
Contact the NSAC and get an application...
www.boxing.nv.gov
The NSAC places some people, but they allow the promoter to request some names to be licensed.
Jason boy are you objectifing judging....hahaha........lol
Hot Potato what was ur old screen name ( s )
Hot Potato what was ur old screen name ( s )
miller your far to qualified.
That's what I was afraid of
LOL at "actively" following the sport coming from someone who has likely seen more MMA fights than 99.9% of the people in the world.
Understatement of the year!
if you were a judge would a minority ever get a win?
of course they would,if they deserved it.
"The NSAC places some people, but they allow the promoter to request some names to be licensed."
Wow - are you sure about the latter part of that statement?
That is amazing, if true, though I don't see how it could be any other way with an emerging sport like MMA, since the athletic commission probably would not have literate officials already on the rolls.
If the promoter has any control or influence over the actions of the athletic commission, though, that can't be good in the long run.
judges should have understanding of the mma game if the UFC wants to be lookd upon as a legit sport. i understand that judging is subjective but this last UFC had me baffled.
Miller- I think the judging definitely needs to be fixed and they need new judges. I don't know much about you but I want to ask a serious question. Could you truely be objective in judging. In NO way am I questioning your integrity but I have thought about this scenario many times before.
This is a 1/2 assed example but:
Say your in Hawaii and judging a Cabbage or BJ fight that could swing either way, mostly b/c of crwod reaction and so on. Could you seperate yourself from whats going on around you, the promotion, the fallout if you are the swing judge that puts the 'L' on one of those guys records? I am sure I used a poor example in relation to you specifically as I don't know your history, but this question goes to ANYONE that would like to judge. You would have to ask yourself that question, and while its easy to say now, unless you have sat in that critical position b4, how could you know?
I am 100% in agreement with you that you would make a 100% better judge, but where would you stand outside of judging the technical part of the bout?
I agree that MMA experienced guys would make better judges, but the same conspiacies would arise. I can hear the jeers now. 'Miller robbed so and so.' As a judged sport, it will NEVER be completely free of bias, but MMA fighters or Ex Fighters would unquestionably judge the sport more ocritically than the majority of the NSAC appointed officials.
Also, I know I could never be a judge because of an extensive arrest record. I think thats also a criteria by the NSAC. A clean slate.
I want to be a UFC REF sign me up!
This begins to look like an institutional problem.
If the industry isn't large enough to support at least a few very legitimate promotions - think of the ML Baseball example, with dozens of legitimate "promoters" (i.e. clubs) and their umpire schools - there probably will never be a legit system for educating and licensing MMA officials. It will just end up being like boxing. The athletic equivalent of "The Motion Picture Academy" that votes on the "Oscars"; i.e. a system where cronyism & worse, rather than literacy and expertise, determine who is and is not positioned in authoritative and decisive official positions.
One thing you can count on: business doing whatever it thinks it can get away with in order to turn a bigger buck, to the extent that the law and institutionalized codes of conduct allow it.
Maybe there was a time when that wasn't true, but Americans seem no longer to believe in integrity, or holding each other to any standard of real integrity.
That doesn't bode well for anything, least of all fight promotions, which thanks to the precedent of boxing are already 2 strikes down, in the integrity and business ethics department.
Fight sports - sports in general - have always attracted criminal and unethical interests.
I guess you have a choice: object, or learn to live with it.
No, there is a third choice: develop a form of mental illness where, although you yourself resent the unethical practices, you habitually and strenuously attack any one who dares, themselves, to object.
This third choice seems to be growing in popularity on all fronts, and in all areas, lol.
I've approached the athletic commission in Nevada as well as New Jersey to see about becoming a judge myself now that I've retired from fighting and have hit a brick wall in both cases. Even THEY don't know what I'm supposed to do in order to be a certified MMA judge. They haven't thought it out that far obviously. The best of a variety of bad answers I've got is to go the boxing route and then maybe I can get put on the commission's list and maybe be asked by a promotion to be a judge. Or something to that effect anyway. It seems like to me that Nevada seems to believe that if you can qualify as a boxing judge then you're overqualified for MMA so you surely can handle it. BTW it costs money too.
"Miller- I think the judging definitely needs to be fixed and they need new judges. I don't know much about you but I want to ask a serious question. Could you truely be objective in judging. "
I definitely could be objective in judging regardless of what is going on around me.I have judged many mma events in the midwest including IowaChallenge,Extreme Challenge and The Victory Fighting Championships.I have no problem being impartial and some of my best friends have even been pissed at me because of decisions that they have lost while I was the judge
Kool. I have to admit you would be part of maybe the minority 33% of judges that wouldn't be biased. My hats off to you.
I used to referee Freestyle and Greco bouts after college and I can relate to you when you say friends were pissed. I would call passivity on a guy and would get reamed afterwards privately if it influenced the outcome of the match . Basically a judgemnet call that is tough to make when your head official and one of your locals is goin. Anyway, decent disccussion here guys. Alot of good points.