I want to run for Mayor of my city

I think that his approach to politics is an incorrect one, but reverend john is refreshing in his candid ability to be radical and committed without being annoying and imposing.

Rev iam a fan of your brand, Brians not so much... Brian love ya as a fighter and respect you as a man but glad to see your last few posts have not been preechy... good luck with whatever you do...

Good luck.



First thing I'd do is ban MMA.

Squared Circle - Good luck.



First thing I'd do is ban MMA.


 LOL

reverend john - 
notsobigmike - 
reverend john - Christians don't belong in politics in my opinion. Our kingdom is not of this world, is what Jesus said. He also said not to rule over others.



rev




To what extent? Should they vote? Should they engage in political discourse and/or demonstrations?



If a Christian feels that a political philosophy or piece of legislation is morally incompatible with his or her faith, how far can he or she go before "entering politics?"






let me preface by saying again this is my opinion, and one that is not shared by most of the Christian community. I believe that Christians should not take office, that they should not vote, nor campaign for things. What I believe they should be, is a radical example of what is a better way to live. I believe also that we should stand on behalf of the downtrodden, and poor, and alienated. That we should stand in the way of the war machine, and run away capitalism. That we should be radically political, but not part of politics. Calling people to account for injustice, but not taking part in a system that endows people with the power to oppress, to kill, to rule over others.



rev


 Rev, Who's side you on man?

Mr.Unbreakable - 
reverend john - let me preface by saying again this is my opinion, and one that is not shared by most of the Christian community. I believe that Christians should not take office, that they should not vote, nor campaign for things. What I believe they should be, is a radical example of what is a better way to live. I believe also that we should stand on behalf of the downtrodden, and poor, and alienated. That we should stand in the way of the war machine, and run away capitalism. That we should be radically political, but not part of politics. Calling people to account for injustice, but not taking part in a system that endows people with the power to oppress, to kill, to rule over others.

rev

 Rev, Who's side you on man?


He said he was on the side of "the downtrodden, and poor, and alienated" in the post that you quoted. Was it his opposition to war and greed that made you wonder if he was on your "side" or not? LOL.

San Bernardino is a shit hole. Im not too familiar with the city because I try to avoid it but Im pretty sure it has one of the highest crime rates in southern CA.



Im pretty sure a lot of the low lifes from LA moved out the San Bernardino area because its cheaper than shit.

Mr.Unbreakable - 
reverend john - 
notsobigmike - 
reverend john - Christians don't belong in politics in my opinion. Our kingdom is not of this world, is what Jesus said. He also said not to rule over others.

rev


To what extent? Should they vote? Should they engage in political discourse and/or demonstrations?

If a Christian feels that a political philosophy or piece of legislation is morally incompatible with his or her faith, how far can he or she go before "entering politics?"



let me preface by saying again this is my opinion, and one that is not shared by most of the Christian community. I believe that Christians should not take office, that they should not vote, nor campaign for things. What I believe they should be, is a radical example of what is a better way to live. I believe also that we should stand on behalf of the downtrodden, and poor, and alienated. That we should stand in the way of the war machine, and run away capitalism. That we should be radically political, but not part of politics. Calling people to account for injustice, but not taking part in a system that endows people with the power to oppress, to kill, to rule over others.

rev

 Rev, Who's side you on man?

I am on Jesus' side bro. Everything I believe comes straight from Jesus life, and teachings. The problem is, people seem unable to actually read Jesus' teachings, and look at His life, without automatically putting the Christendom views on top of them. How can you be mayor without having power over others? How can you be mayor without standing above the poor and the marginalized?

Jesus said we are salt, and light. Salt gives people a flavor of the kingdom, and preserves the world, it doesn't force it to change (Jesus certainly didn't, he showed us how we could change and invited us), light doesn't turn darkness into light, or make it behave like light. It simply shines, and the whole room is made better by its existence. Our job is to be a vision of what God's rule would look like, not to force others into it.

Jesus left the power, and privilege of heaven, and humbled himself to be a poor man, from the despised nazareth, and resisted every effort to make him more powerful. His was all the power of the world, and he chose to instead be a servant. To a very few of the least of these.

rev

Mayor Goldie Wilson, I like the sound of that!

reverend john - 
notsobigmike - 
reverend john - Christians don't belong in politics in my opinion. Our kingdom is not of this world, is what Jesus said. He also said not to rule over others.

rev


To what extent? Should they vote? Should they engage in political discourse and/or demonstrations?

If a Christian feels that a political philosophy or piece of legislation is morally incompatible with his or her faith, how far can he or she go before "entering politics?"



let me preface by saying again this is my opinion, and one that is not shared by most of the Christian community. I believe that Christians should not take office, that they should not vote, nor campaign for things. What I believe they should be, is a radical example of what is a better way to live. I believe also that we should stand on behalf of the downtrodden, and poor, and alienated. That we should stand in the way of the war machine, and run away capitalism. That we should be radically political, but not part of politics. Calling people to account for injustice, but not taking part in a system that endows people with the power to oppress, to kill, to rule over others.

rev


possibly the stupidest post ive ever read on any forum,yea lets be heard and defend the poor and alienated but lets all do it secretly amongst ourselves instead of uniting together to force politicians to do things we cant.Im all for seperation of church and state but this is ignorant.You cant call people to account for injustice without being involved in the political process,the iraq war isnt going to end because christians are reading a book in a church,its because people voted for change.Same with the upcoming healthcare fights,you have a voice but nobody cares or listens if you dont use the leverage you have as a voter to influence politicians,who whether you like them or not,like the system or not,are the tools we have to make change

Brock75thRanger - 
reverend john - 
notsobigmike - 
reverend john - Christians don't belong in politics in my opinion. Our kingdom is not of this world, is what Jesus said. He also said not to rule over others.

rev


To what extent? Should they vote? Should they engage in political discourse and/or demonstrations?

If a Christian feels that a political philosophy or piece of legislation is morally incompatible with his or her faith, how far can he or she go before "entering politics?"



let me preface by saying again this is my opinion, and one that is not shared by most of the Christian community. I believe that Christians should not take office, that they should not vote, nor campaign for things. What I believe they should be, is a radical example of what is a better way to live. I believe also that we should stand on behalf of the downtrodden, and poor, and alienated. That we should stand in the way of the war machine, and run away capitalism. That we should be radically political, but not part of politics. Calling people to account for injustice, but not taking part in a system that endows people with the power to oppress, to kill, to rule over others.

rev


possibly the stupidest post ive ever read on any forum,yea lets be heard and defend the poor and alienated but lets all do it secretly amongst ourselves instead of uniting together to force politicians to do things we cant.Im all for seperation of church and state but this is ignorant.You cant call people to account for injustice without being involved in the political process,the iraq war isnt going to end because christians are reading a book in a church,its because people voted for change.Same with the upcoming healthcare fights,you have a voice but nobody cares or listens if you dont use the leverage you have as a voter to influence politicians,who whether you like them or not,like the system or not,are the tools we have to make change

I said nothing about being secretive. What MLK did, What Gandhi did, what Rosa Parks did were not secrets. So when the city passes a law that makes sleeping in the park a crime, we go, as a group of Christians, and we sleep in the park alongside of the homeless. When the war machine tries to roll on, we get in its way. Look up the plowshares actions. This is not about hiding, it is about not using the instruments of power, and violence.

but hey, thanks for the stupidest comment, that was swell

rev

 I ran for City Council a few years back, and was appointed to one fo the cities Commissions.  I know all of the City Council members personally as well as the Mayor....   that is a HARD JOB.  There is sooooooooooooo much work that is behind the scenes it's crazy.



As the cliche states... politics is politics... the best guy does not win... it's not what you know, but who you know

We need people like Warren in politics, great fighter btw too!  He might be religious but that doesn't mean he can't do his job.  You people need to chill out with the whole religious shit, if someone wants to be faithful to god, more power to them. 

ive been to sb city a couple of times and was thankful to make it out without being mugged or shot at.

i literally saw hookers walking the point with their pimps in tow, and this was right in front of san bernadino high school at about ten at night.

i also saw an awesome bus bench ad with a senior portrait of an african american kid. over it, the writing read "do you know who killed our son"

there was a bum in the dumpster next to where i parked my car. my guess is that his drug of choice was meth. i dont think too many of you would disagree.

if any city in cali needs help, that one does. i work in inglewood, which is supposed to be hood, but san bernadino city makes it look like brentwood by comparison.

all that being said, i applaud brian warren running for government. although i disagree with his religious views, i have respect for someone trying to make things better in their own community. first thing i would do in that city would be to round up all the homeless meth heads and send em to santa monica where they would be welcomed by all the shelters.

 bw will blow the campaign by wearint his satanic inspired clothing to debates and fundraisers and invariably be exposed as half illiterate in his campaing letters. What an ego maniac.

that was less that nice bro

rev

NHB USA - You people need to chill out with the whole religious shit,


Funny, that's usually the main complaint about what Brian and other UG proselytizers post here. ;)

if someone wants to be faithful to god, more power to them. 


What if someone wants to make a regular habit of talking about their religious beliefs on a forum which isn't specifically designed for that purpose? Advocating your own particular religious beliefs in public without expecting some sort of disagreement or criticism is foolish and naïve.

This is shaping up to be a great thread!

 I'm just saying...being faithful to God is alot better than some of these politicians we have that are only faithful to their cocaine, strippers, and kiddy porn.

NHB USA -  I'm just saying...being faithful to God is alot better than some of these politicians we have that are only faithful to their cocaine, strippers, and kiddy porn.


Have you noticed that many of those same politicians also profess faith in god? It's kind of funny how that works.