... the next 2-3 heavyweights (winner of CroCop-Nogueira, Arlovski, and maybe even Fedor), will he be deemed as the best fighter to ever live (much like Fedor is now)? I'm thinking 'yes'. While he's had some ups and downs, he has consistently shined through when you didn't expect it, sooo... let's see what happens, I guess.
Most celebrated for sure. Won't ever be considered the best fighter though.
The only reason he's had ups and downs is he has faced the best and the toughest competition.....every fighter who has donme this has lost a few
And if GSP wins the 170, 185 and 205 titles while riding a unicycle would he be considered the Pope?
That's a pretty damn tall order and looks basically like troll bait to me. If a frog had wings it wouldn't bump it's ass a hoppin there boy!
"The only reason he's had ups and downs is he has faced the best and the toughest competition.....every fighter who has donme this has lost a few"
That's my point. He will have faced some of the stiffest competition to date, with the exception of a few notable opponents (i.e. Aleksander, Hunt, etc.).
"That's a pretty damn tall order and looks basically like troll bait to me."
It was a tall order for him to beat Belfort I, Liddell I, Ortiz, and Sylvia. As I see it, it can be done by Randy. It's only a question of 'WILL it?'
Frankly, no. He has too many losses, been stopped too many times. In his last three fights at heavyweight he is 1-2. In his last three fights at lightheavy he is 1-2. All 4 of those losses where by TKO. Greatest of all time? No way.
Yeah, but he's facing the best of the best - not Coleman, Ogawa, and Zulu (the list goes on and on).
He is awesome. No doubt about that. And is a great fighter. But not the best. But he is the most loved and has the biggest fan base imo.
Randy is the best competitor the sport has seen, but not the best fighter imo
But if he beat the following???
Too many losses on the record to be considered the greatest. A great fighter, absolutely. The best eva...Nope.
What difference does it make if you face the best and lose? His fights against the best heavyweights have resulted in losses. Fedor has also fought top flight competitors in Hunt, Nog, Cro Cop and he WON those fights.
"I dont think Randy Couture could beat Fedor Emelianenko or Big Nog or Andre Arlovski, Cro Cop or even Gabriel Gonzaga, which is his next fight"
lol You're in for a big surprise then. TTT this thread if I'm wrong! :)
I don't think he'd be the best by any means. Winning against gonzaga and beating guys that Fedor has already beaten would not make him superior to Fedor. Plus Randy's record isn't spectacular even recently. What did he do to deserve the title shot? He got KO'ed.
somewhere josh barnett is reading this thread and giggling
if he gets past gonzaga (which i think he will) then i think he will lost to nogueira/cro cop/fedor, but id love to see any of thsoe fights.
Time is not on his side.
And I agree, he won't make it past Pride's Big 3- Fedor, CroCop, Nog- so he'll never be considered the best fighter. Still, Randy is the man- the best spokesman MMA can have during it's switch to mainstream sports.
gg will kill couture
He beats Sylvia who is barely a top10 fighter and all of a sudden he's the best ever? He has a horrible record and switches weight classes when he gets beat
gg will get exposed