If you think Cain will take down Werdum

Your out of your mind lol Phone Post 3.0

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If you think Werdum can win then you are out of yours.

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I dont worry about Cain being submitted Phone Post

Cain would play the Overeem game by taking Werdum down.

i_shogun_ruas - Cain wouldn't need to take werdum down he would just keep it standing and with his superior boxing cardio and speed would K werdum TFO Phone Post 3.0
This.

Anyone else who thinks otherwise is stupid. Phone Post 3.0

Cain is too athletic for Werdum. He'd box him up and wrestle defensively if he had to.

I like Werdum more but I think it's fairly obvious JDS and Cain are on another level compared to the rest of the division. Phone Post 3.0

fryingarmbar - Cain is too athletic for Werdum. He'd box him up and wrestle defensively if he had to.

I like Werdum more but I think it's fairly obvious JDS and Cain are on another level compared to the rest of the division. Phone Post 3.0

That's not true.
Werdum can beat Cain. Styles make fights. Werdum could easily catch a sub on Cain.
And Cain's striking is no better than Fab's, and Fab has better knees and harder kicks.
Guys like JDS and Reem may have his number.
Another example. Reem could probably beat Cain more often than not, and JDS could probably beat Reem more often than not. Bigfoot can beat Reem, but Cain's got his #.
And on and on.
Many would agree though, Cain's gas tank is second to none. Phone Post

I hope everyone doesnt count out and disrespect Werdum just like a bunch of people did JDS the 1st time they fought. Cain is my favorite fighter but I was embarrassed by the disrespect JDS was shown. Werdum is a bad mother fucker. Phone Post

sparkuri - 
fryingarmbar - Cain is too athletic for Werdum. He'd box him up and wrestle defensively if he had to.

I like Werdum more but I think it's fairly obvious JDS and Cain are on another level compared to the rest of the division. Phone Post 3.0

That's not true.
Werdum can beat Cain. Styles make fights. Werdum could easily catch a sub on Cain.
And Cain's striking is no better than Fab's, and Fab has better knees and harder kicks.
Guys like JDS and Reem may have his number.
Another example. Reem could probably beat Cain more often than not, and JDS could probably beat Reem more often than not. Bigfoot can beat Reem, but Cain's got his #.
And on and on.
Many would agree though, Cain's gas tank is second to none. Phone Post



That is interesting to note about Werdum's kicks. He can pretty much throw them without any worry since he's not worried about being taken down.

On paper, Cain should win this.

 

But when you play it out, it's not as easy.

wrestling advantage is Cain but against a guy the caliber of Werdum, that advantage is nullified unless Cain uses his wrestling to gain a good position on the ground, which against Werdum, good luck with that.

 

So you move on to the next aspect, the feet. Werdum looked great on the feet against Roy Nelson, and Werdum has proven he can take a punch(as long as it's not an uppercut from hell from JDS). 

Cain has proven, he has great stand up, mixes it up well, but doesn't have devastating power.

 

I feel this fight is a stand up fight to see whose stand up is better.

 

I give Cain the advantage for his ability to keep it against the cage and work a high pace.

Cain via decision in a fight that doesn't live up to all the hype.

I thought Werdum was fading in the first round of the Nog fight. If his conditioning doesn't vastly improve, he will not be able to take the pace the Cain will put on him. Cain won't take this to the ground and Werdum isn't taking Cain down. I think Cain takes this fight easily by pace and cardio alone.

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If you think Werdum can win then you are out of yours.

You meant "you'res."

OP understands you now. Phone Post 3.0

Another thing to note. Although Werdum is bigger and stronger, Cain would have to mix it up between td's, and fight at distance. Werdum is too dangerous in close quarters. Cain would push the pace, but could fall right into something cause Werdum knows this.
Imo, Cain would be smart to cast punches and go for td's then get out.
Basically, EXACTLY what Fedor did to Nog in their 2nd fight. Phone Post

sparkuri -
fryingarmbar - Cain is too athletic for Werdum. He'd box him up and wrestle defensively if he had to.

I like Werdum more but I think it's fairly obvious JDS and Cain are on another level compared to the rest of the division. Phone Post 3.0

That's not true.
Werdum can beat Cain. Styles make fights. Werdum could easily catch a sub on Cain.
And Cain's striking is no better than Fab's, and Fab has better knees and harder kicks.
Guys like JDS and Reem may have his number.
Another example. Reem could probably beat Cain more often than not, and JDS could probably beat Reem more often than not. Bigfoot can beat Reem, but Cain's got his #.
And on and on.
Many would agree though, Cain's gas tank is second to none. Phone Post

I don't agree that their standup is about even. Cain's footwork is much better and I can't see Werdum lumbering his way into a clinch on him. Cain works from angles much more and I think he'd be a tough target for Werdum to hit.

I think Cain outclasses him badly but we won't know until they actually fight. Phone Post 3.0

I will agree that Reem has a good chance at beating Cain, but only if he's juiced to the gills. Phone Post 3.0

cain would gladly stand with werdum and knock him out, werdum is slow compared to cain.

no way werdum will take cain down as well. he'll be trying to pull guard and butt flop like he did against overeem in their 2nd fight, i'm sure dana won't be happy if that happens.

sparkuri -
fryingarmbar - Cain is too athletic for Werdum. He'd box him up and wrestle defensively if he had to.

I like Werdum more but I think it's fairly obvious JDS and Cain are on another level compared to the rest of the division. Phone Post 3.0

That's not true.
Werdum can beat Cain. Styles make fights. Werdum could easily catch a sub on Cain.
And Cain's striking is no better than Fab's, and Fab has better knees and harder kicks.
Guys like JDS and Reem may have his number.
Another example. Reem could probably beat Cain more often than not, and JDS could probably beat Reem more often than not. Bigfoot can beat Reem, but Cain's got his #.
And on and on.
Many would agree though, Cain's gas tank is second to none. Phone Post

Werdum COULD beat Cain, but its not likely. I disagree about the stand up, I think is much more technically sound, better movement and footwork, and is much quicker. He could not EASILY sub Cain. He could if Cain put himself in a position like that, but Cain is too smart to play to Werdums strength. He can beat him in the stand up, yeah Werdum can throw kicks without regard for the takedown, but his kicks are slow and I can see Cain catching them and making him pay. Werdum also showed that he didn't train for a 25 minute fight, and that is a mistake against Cain. I think his only chance is if they get caught in a scramble and he comes away with the quick submission. Even with that, I think Cain is too smart. I also think people tend to underrate Cains power, he KOd Nog, Bigfoot, and finished Brock in under a round (something Carwin couldn't do), hurt JDS bad with a right hand and had him in survival mode the whole fight, his power is definitely underrated, and his punching accuracy sure helps it. Phone Post 3.0

Cain is much more technically sound ^^ Phone Post 3.0

MasterofMartialArts -
sparkuri -
fryingarmbar - Cain is too athletic for Werdum. He'd box him up and wrestle defensively if he had to.

I like Werdum more but I think it's fairly obvious JDS and Cain are on another level compared to the rest of the division. Phone Post 3.0

That's not true.
Werdum can beat Cain. Styles make fights. Werdum could easily catch a sub on Cain.
And Cain's striking is no better than Fab's, and Fab has better knees and harder kicks.
Guys like JDS and Reem may have his number.
Another example. Reem could probably beat Cain more often than not, and JDS could probably beat Reem more often than not. Bigfoot can beat Reem, but Cain's got his #.
And on and on.
Many would agree though, Cain's gas tank is second to none. Phone Post

Werdum COULD beat Cain, but its not likely. I disagree about the stand up, I think is much more technically sound, better movement and footwork, and is much quicker. He could not EASILY sub Cain. He could if Cain put himself in a position like that, but Cain is too smart to play to Werdums strength. He can beat him in the stand up, yeah Werdum can throw kicks without regard for the takedown, but his kicks are slow and I can see Cain catching them and making him pay. Werdum also showed that he didn't train for a 25 minute fight, and that is a mistake against Cain. I think his only chance is if they get caught in a scramble and he comes away with the quick submission. Even with that, I think Cain is too smart. I also think people tend to underrate Cains power, he KOd Nog, Bigfoot, and finished Brock in under a round (something Carwin couldn't do), hurt JDS bad with a right hand and had him in survival mode the whole fight, his power is definitely underrated, and his punching accuracy sure helps it. Phone Post 3.0

Cain's standup is VASTLY OVERRATED.
The reason he finds success is surprise. No one he's fought really expects a stand up fight with him, which is a credit to him.
But his footwork is NOT good, NOR is his head movement. It's sloppy, and anyone in boxing will tell you that.
Werdum is better in the clinch(knees), and short range(jabs). He's better on his back as well.
And sure he could easily sub Cain. He easily subbed Fedor & Nog, & countless others in his life.
Wrestler with scrap and gas vs. BJJ master with strength, ect..
Both guys are smart. I'd give mental fortitude to Cain.
But keep in mind, Cain doesn't(or hasn't) changed his style. There is no secret to him. It's full steam ahead, and no one loves that more than a bjjBB.
Not as easy a call as some make out. Phone Post