In DEFENSE of Brock Lesnar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 I just read this article and can't say that i disagree with it............your opinion UG'ers?????





At UFC 100 on July 11, Brock Lesnar soundly defeated Frank Mir in front of a hostile crowd and millions of viewers at home to unify the UFC heavyweight championship.


The former WWE superstar spent eighteen months preparing for that moment. In fact, since his debut at UFC 81 in February of 2007, Lesnar has done nothing but listen to how green he is.


And how he couldn’t finish Heath Herring at UFC 87 despite the fact that the “Texas Crazy Horse” has no ground game. Or how he was losing to Randy Couture at UFC 91 but scored the win because Father Time robbed “The Natural” of his reaction speed and Lesnar has giant mitts.


Leading up to his rematch with Mir, everything about Brock was how awful he was technically, how preposterous it was that a 3-1 wrestler was championship material. Mir even offered to train him after the event to help him become better.


And the fans?


Well, let’s see. For starters there were the steroid allegations, because we all know that even though you’ve never failed a drug test in your career, you’re still on steroids if you are blessed with a body that keyboard jockeys could never achieve.


Talk also surrounded the giant sword tattooed on his chest, because it is completely relevant to his UFC career. And the WWE? Scarlet letter can’t even do that stigma justice.


Then Lesnar walks out to the UFC 100 main event to a chorus of boos. The same people who cheered Georges St. Pierre when he had top position on Thiago Alves booed Lesnar in that same position. Lesnar wins and they hiss at him like a villain from a silent film.


Eighteen months of abuse. Eighteen months of eating shit from most of the world gets funneled into Lesnar’s bloodstream and erupts in an emotional post-fight adrenaline dump.


I believe the UFC had a tagline not too long ago … something like “As real as it gets.” Well it got real — and now it looks like a lot of people are having a difficult time handling it.


Welcome to the new era of ultimate fighting. You’ve heard the old adage, “Be careful what you wish for?”


In the real world, there are heroes and there are villains. There are also some people who are a little bit of both. If you want to have a real sport with real people, then this is some of the baggage that comes with it.


Critics have slammed Lesnar’s post-fight antics as phony posturing, triggered by a pro-wrestling mentality that is provoking by design.


You want phony? How about his poorly-scripted and ham-handed apology in the post-event presser — that clearly reeked of Dana’s paddle.


I believe that Brock going on an emotional bender after the biggest win in his life was real. Slurping down a Bud Light to soothe some wounded souls afterward, was not.


Fans who cry for sportsmanship have an argument, but my problem is those are the same fans who Mir’d him before, during and after the fight.


Don’t poke the gorilla in the cage and then act surprised when he gets out and goes on rampage.


Now before you claim I’m typing this rant using Lesnar’s pasty-pencil, I’ll warn you I’m no Lesnar nuthugger. Taking a verbal dump on the UFC’s biggest sponsor was a little dumb, and I’m not sure how much interest I have in when he’s going to show Mrs. Lesnar his little Gopher.


But let’s keep things in perspective. At an event that saw Dan Henderson purposely strike an unconscious Michael Bisping to send a message — I don’t want to hear about Lesnar being unsportsmanlike.


And now UFC heavyweight contender Shane Carwin wants to blog about Lesnar being “lame?” Wonderful. Isn’t this the same guy who hastily slammed Brock in his blog for Internet comments that Lesnar didn’t even make?


What does Carwin, who’s never headlined an event in his life, know about the pressures of carrying the biggest pay-per-view in UFC history?


Carwin’s primary concern as of late has been which of his dimwitted fans is going to coin his goofy new nickname. I would like Carwin to spend a year being ridiculed for a pro wrestling career, accused of steroids, pressured into carrying a pay-per-view, etc. before speaking out on Brock.


Lesnar has ESPN in his barn. In four fights he’s been forced to face Frank Mir (twice), Randy Couture and Heath Herring. Carwin, who is being coddled to the point of absurdity, had his biggest test to date against Gabriel Gonzaga at UFC 96.


Despite losing, “Napao” re-engineered Carwin’s nose with one punch.


The UFC is a sport based on real fighting between real men. No matter how professional your standards, fighting carries a certain emotional intensity that just doesn’t come with an on-off switch.


Brock Lesnar is a villain. He lassoed Heath Herring, gave no respect to Randy Couture and got in the face of a battered Frank Mir. He is the antithesis of a Rich Franklin-type of fighter, who thanks God and his opponent in his post-fight speech, then proceeds to shake hands with everyone from the opposing trainer to Mike in Accounting.


I like Franklin, just as I like Lesnar. They’re real people who are different in their styles, emotions and philosophy. I appreciate the ability to root for one and jeer the other.


And to me, the genuine moments in this sport are also the most unforgettable.


From Forrest Griffin’s breakdown after losing to Keith Jardine at UFC 66 to Houston Alexander screaming at a fallen “Dean of Mean” at UFC 71 to Michael Bisping’s jump-for-joy reaction to beating Matt Hamill at UFC 75, those images provided me with an emotional investment in not just the fighters, but the sport in general.


Lesnar comes across as a jerk and a bully. But he also comes across as one of the most dangerous heavyweight fighters in the game today.


The more vile Lesnar gets, the more I want to see him taken out. Count this fan among the legions of MMA fanatics who will reach into their wallets for the next Lesnar pay-per-view.


And I’m not lost on the irony that a man who made his name in the land of make believe is now facing ridicule for being “as real as it gets.”


 

 BTW this was written by jesse holland at mmamania.com............ and i think it is a damn good piece of written material

i agree. good read.

inf0 -  too bad that font and the double spacing make it unreadable..



At UFC 100 on July 11, Brock Lesnar soundly defeated Frank Mir in front of a hostile crowd and millions of viewers at home to unify the UFC heavyweight championship.


The former WWE superstar spent eighteen months preparing for that moment. In fact, since his debut at UFC 81 in February of 2007, Lesnar has done nothing but listen to how green he is.


And how he couldn’t finish Heath Herring at UFC 87 despite the fact that the “Texas Crazy Horse” has no ground game. Or how he was losing to Randy Couture at UFC 91 but scored the win because Father Time robbed “The Natural” of his reaction speed and Lesnar has giant mitts.


Leading up to his rematch with Mir, everything about Brock was how awful he was technically, how preposterous it was that a 3-1 wrestler was championship material. Mir even offered to train him after the event to help him become better.


And the fans?


Well, let’s see. For starters there were the steroid allegations, because we all know that even though you’ve never failed a drug test in your career, you’re still on steroids if you are blessed with a body that keyboard jockeys could never achieve.


Talk also surrounded the giant sword tattooed on his chest, because it is completely relevant to his UFC career. And the WWE? Scarlet letter can’t even do that stigma justice.


Then Lesnar walks out to the UFC 100 main event to a chorus of boos. The same people who cheered Georges St. Pierre when he had top position on Thiago Alves booed Lesnar in that same position. Lesnar wins and they hiss at him like a villain from a silent film.


Eighteen months of abuse. Eighteen months of eating shit from most of the world gets funneled into Lesnar’s bloodstream and erupts in an emotional post-fight adrenaline dump.


I believe the UFC had a tagline not too long ago … something like “As real as it gets.” Well it got real — and now it looks like a lot of people are having a difficult time handling it.


Welcome to the new era of ultimate fighting. You’ve heard the old adage, “Be careful what you wish for?”


In the real world, there are heroes and there are villains. There are also some people who are a little bit of both. If you want to have a real sport with real people, then this is some of the baggage that comes with it.


Critics have slammed Lesnar’s post-fight antics as phony posturing, triggered by a pro-wrestling mentality that is provoking by design.


You want phony? How about his poorly-scripted and ham-handed apology in the post-event presser — that clearly reeked of Dana’s paddle.


I believe that Brock going on an emotional bender after the biggest win in his life was real. Slurping down a Bud Light to soothe some wounded souls afterward, was not.


Fans who cry for sportsmanship have an argument, but my problem is those are the same fans who Mir’d him before, during and after the fight.


Don’t poke the gorilla in the cage and then act surprised when he gets out and goes on rampage.


Now before you claim I’m typing this rant using Lesnar’s pasty-pencil, I’ll warn you I’m no Lesnar nuthugger. Taking a verbal dump on the UFC’s biggest sponsor was a little dumb, and I’m not sure how much interest I have in when he’s going to show Mrs. Lesnar his little Gopher.


But let’s keep things in perspective. At an event that saw Dan Henderson purposely strike an unconscious Michael Bisping to send a message — I don’t want to hear about Lesnar being unsportsmanlike.


And now UFC heavyweight contender Shane Carwin wants to blog about Lesnar being “lame?” Wonderful. Isn’t this the same guy who hastily slammed Brock in his blog for Internet comments that Lesnar didn’t even make?


What does Carwin, who’s never headlined an event in his life, know about the pressures of carrying the biggest pay-per-view in UFC history?


Carwin’s primary concern as of late has been which of his dimwitted fans is going to coin his goofy new nickname. I would like Carwin to spend a year being ridiculed for a pro wrestling career, accused of steroids, pressured into carrying a pay-per-view, etc. before speaking out on Brock.


Lesnar has ESPN in his barn. In four fights he’s been forced to face Frank Mir (twice), Randy Couture and Heath Herring. Carwin, who is being coddled to the point of absurdity, had his biggest test to date against Gabriel Gonzaga at UFC 96.


Despite losing, “Napao” re-engineered Carwin’s nose with one punch.


The UFC is a sport based on real fighting between real men. No matter how professional your standards, fighting carries a certain emotional intensity that just doesn’t come with an on-off switch.


Brock Lesnar is a villain. He lassoed Heath Herring, gave no respect to Randy Couture and got in the face of a battered Frank Mir. He is the antithesis of a Rich Franklin-type of fighter, who thanks God and his opponent in his post-fight speech, then proceeds to shake hands with everyone from the opposing trainer to Mike in Accounting.


I like Franklin, just as I like Lesnar. They’re real people who are different in their styles, emotions and philosophy. I appreciate the ability to root for one and jeer the other.


And to me, the genuine moments in this sport are also the most unforgettable.


From Forrest Griffin’s breakdown after losing to Keith Jardine at UFC 66 to Houston Alexander screaming at a fallen “Dean of Mean” at UFC 71 to Michael Bisping’s jump-for-joy reaction to beating Matt Hamill at UFC 75, those images provided me with an emotional investment in not just the fighters, but the sport in general.


Lesnar comes across as a jerk and a bully. But he also comes across as one of the most dangerous heavyweight fighters in the game today.


The more vile Lesnar gets, the more I want to see him taken out. Count this fan among the legions of MMA fanatics who will reach into their wallets for the next Lesnar pay-per-view.


And I’m not lost on the irony that a man who made his name in the land of make believe is now facing ridicule for being “as real as it gets.”


 













 better???????

Definately better Relentless.......tks, good read.

What ever happened to vindicating yourself. Do people make Brock out to be a villan sometimes? Yes. But acting like a complete ass at the end of the biggest event of the sports history doesnt do you any good.
The fact of the matter is that he fits the meat head/juicer persona, whether he has done steroids or not, and he has a dick tatooed on his chest, of course he is going to take shit about it.

I also dont like the comparison between Brock and GSP's top game. Brock laid on Mir, basically smothering him. GSP was constantly trying to advance position and land strikes. If you cant see the difference between the two, you are either biased or you are not qualified to be writing an article about MMA.

All in all an alright read that gives a different perspective on the situation.

inf0 -  ya, good read... and good points





 Come sit on Daddys lap FO and Ill read it to you and sing you a lullabye .

^ lol

lol, the guy is playing a heel, all that devil's advocate stuff doesn't match up with the facts. the guy menaced the camera after the fight. go watch one of the programs on the history of wrestling. he's playing a part that's existed for a very long time. it's a method of creating interest just like the the devil's advocate act above is an attempt to cop hits.

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He's still a tool though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RelentlessMMA -  BTW this was written by jesse holland at mmamania.com............ and i think it is a damn good piece of written material
I was going to VTFU till you said you didnt write that...



Oh fu*k it thats a great read VTFU for you anyways, lol



 

I was not a Brock Lesner fan until the comments in the cage after that fight. He told it like it was and it was real. No kissing and making up with the guy that has disrepected him relentlessly. No Tito digging a grave act or fairy looking dancing around the ring. Just a big FU to all the pricks that did everything they could to make him look like a douche bag. I hope he destroys the next few opponents in the same manner until the day Fedor finally comes.

Brock is a breath of fresh air.

I look forward to his next match and all the jiggery pokery that occurs before and after it.

Good write up and I agree...

Funny thing. I had two people over at my house that have never seen a UFC event and had no experience in Martial Arts at all.. They were curious so what better time than UFC 100 to show them. After all was said and done the one fight they keep talking about is the Lesnar/Mir fight. They think the guy is a beast and was really exciting. They thought the after fight speech was pretty funny and obviously Lesnar was very worked up...and rightfully so.

One thing that Frank said I kind of found ironic.. "You need to hit harder Brock.." Talk about be careful what you ask for.

People don't like Lesnar for some reason. Because of WWE, and people don't respect the skill of guys who dominate a sport because of sheer size (shaq, etc).

People hated on Sylvia, who seemed butthurt about it. At least Lesnar is embracing the hate what else can he do? cry about it like Sylvia did? did that get Sylvia more fans?

RickStorm - 
RelentlessMMA -  BTW this was written by jesse holland at mmamania.com............ and i think it is a damn good piece of written material
I was going to VTFU till you said you didnt write that...



Oh fu*k it thats a great read VTFU for you anyways, lol



 


 thanks for the vote Mr. Storm..........and i can't be the kind of guy that takes credit for someone else's work........... got to give credit where credit is due

I don't hate Brock personally, but I would really like to think that MMA has evolved to the point that size & power can be overcome by superior skill & technique.

I rewatched the fight, and I must say that Brock adds to the 'size & power' paradigm the additional asset of skill...something someone the likes of, say, Bob Sapp--doesn't have.

Size, power, and skill are formidable weapons, especially as a trifecta. It will be tough for anyone to beat Brock, and it will likely be a great striker as he COMPLETELY nullified Mir's BJJ game. Mir, a guy who is as competent submitting people off of his back as anyone except for the very elite BJJ MMAists, looked like a white belt as he desperately clung to half-guard while being bludgeoned nearly to death.

I absolutely HATE Brock's WWE persona, post-fight antics and speech in UFC 100, and the maybe even the simple fact that he IS the undisputed, legitimate, unified HW champ. However, he is probably here to stay. I have to accept that, as do many old-school MMA fans who have been around since the early-1990 UFC's.

Where is Pride-era Nogueira when you need him? ha ha

LiftStrong -



I also dont like the comparison between Brock and GSP's top game. Brock laid on Mir, basically smothering him. GSP was constantly trying to advance position and land strikes. If you cant see the difference between the two, you are either biased or you are not qualified to be writing an article about MMA.



All in all an alright read that gives a different perspective on the situation.


    Why should he try and advance position? He was able to control and beat the living shit out of him from there. maybe you're the one who shouldn't be making comments. The purpose of advancing position is to gain an advantagous position to be able to finish the fight.



    Now I do agree with you there is no comparing gsp and Brock, two totally different fighters with different skill sets but syaing "he laid on him" is bullshit. Mir is slick from the bottom position and he was able to control him from the half guard. and finish the fight.

"Brock laid on Mir, basically smothering him." Yea, that's where Mir got all the bruises, swelling, and blood. From Brock laying on him and smothering him, not from any strikes or anything.

 I SHOULD hate Brock, but I don't.  He brings something completely different to the table.  How many times have you seen a guy in half guard craddle his opponent's head in a bully headlock and pound his face into hamburger meat?  That's right, never.  Because it's not supposed to work.



There's only so many times you can watch the same routine:  Two opponents circle, jab, clinch, push against the fence and stalemate until the ref breaks them up.   That shit gets old.  That's why it's fun to see somebody like a Karate master taking the title in the LHW, and school yard bully tactics taking the HW title.  



After 100 UFC's, it has come full circle.  Everything we've been taught that doesn't work in a real fight in UFC1, is now working 15 years later.