"Bush was not one given to reflection, at least not out loud. Yet one day," in the summer of 2008, "he seemed in a rare introspective mood. Sitting in the Situation Room while waiting for another meeting to begin, the president looked at Robert Gates and Adm. Mike Mullen, who had succeeded Peter Pace as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and harked back to the critical days in 2003 before he launched the war that had become so problematic. 'You know,' he recalled, 'when I made the decision on Iraq, I went around the room to everybody at that table, every principal. "You in? Any doubts?" Nothing from anybody.' For Bush, it was a rare moment of doubt. Was he ruing his own flawed judgment? Bitter that he had been led off track by advisers? Or both?"
IP - After 9/11, 99% of America wanted to kick someone's ass and Iraq fit the bill. Bush might have initiated the act, but the rest of the country followed with pitchforks and torches. We were all part of the mess.
Well as they say nobody ever lost money underestimating the stupidity of the American public.
jettdogg -Hessian - Sounds like a weak minded man was allowed to be Potus.
Bush and Cheney should never have been in the White House, they proved they were unfit, thanks Supreme Court. Fucked us over for decades to come. Trillions gone, over 30,000 dead and injured, and the country is in a civil war perpetually. A disgrace.
More like a million dead Iraqis along with 5,000 Americans. Go checkout the John Hopkins and ORB studies if you want sources for reputable studies of the death counts. We'll be dealing with the mentally harmed veterans for decades to come.
It was a modern day horror.
That OP summary kind of makes sense, I actually feel a little bad for Bush Jr, he was in over his head, it was the political machine and lobbyists that got him elected, he had not many accomplishments of his doing in life before becoming president. 
I think that pedophilistan is the country to be afraid of.
jettdogg -OneScoup -jettdogg -Hessian - Sounds like a weak minded man was allowed to be Potus.
Bush and Cheney should never have been in the White House, they proved they were unfit, thanks Supreme Court. Fucked us over for decades to come. Trillions gone, over 30,000 dead and injured, and the country is in a civil war perpetually. A disgrace.
More like a million dead Iraqis along with 5,000 Americans. Go checkout the John Hopkins and ORB studies if you want sources for reputable studies of the death counts. We'll be dealing with the mentally harmed veterans for decades to come.
It was a modern day horror.
I was talking about U.S. casualties that should have never happened, not the total death count.
To you other guys it took 1.5 years of relentless propaganda, that we now know were all lies, to build up to the invasion. The AP counted, senior administration officials told thousands of lies about Irag, lying every time they opened their mouths.
Notice, NO ONE wants to hear a word any of those people have to say, other than when these scumbags write their pathetic books and need to promote them.
We lost 30,000? I thought it was 5k. What's your source?
MacNYC - That OP summary kind of makes sense, I actually feel a little bad for Bush Jr, he was in over his head, it was the political machine and lobbyists that got him elected, he had not many accomplishments of his doing in life before becoming president.
Fuck Bush Jr. He should have been given a quiet room, a pistol and a bottle of whiskey.
jettdogg -Actually there are around a 1/2 a million dead from our actions in Iraq.Hessian - Sounds like a weak minded man was allowed to be Potus.
Bush and Cheney should never have been in the White House, they proved they were unfit, thanks Supreme Court. Fucked us over for decades to come. Trillions gone, over 30,000 dead and injured, and the country is in a civil war perpetually. A disgrace.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24547256
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Kneeblock -IP -mendelson -IP - After 9/11, 99% of America wanted to kick someone's ass and Iraq fit the bill. Bush might have initiated the act, but the rest of the country followed with pitchforks and torches. We were all part of the mess.Horse crap. It was just about the exact same day when all media, seemingly out of nowhere, changed headlines from bin Laden to Hussein. We went for no good reason and destroyed our nation so conservators like Cheney could profit on the blood of middle class Americans. He should be prosecuted first for treason for destroying our economy as an act of war, then for crimes against humanity in world court. That's fact.
Obama has been continually stymied by the childish antics of John nowhere and the right wing crybabies who blame him for everything bad in the past 150 years . I'm not saying the guy is the best Potus we've ever had, but he's certainly better than that nutless coward Bush.
You disagree that most of us wanted to storm troop into Iraq during that time period?
I don't remember it this way at all. Iraq was pretty unpopular from the start. It had to be sold. It's true people were enlisting left and right after 9/11 and the administration basically had carte blanche, but by 2003 that was settling down a bit and there were protests all over the country with thousands of people opposing the Iraq war. I attended a couple of them. I also remember Colin Powell's so-called "slam dunk" presentation to the UN being largely ridiculed by the global community despite the fact that the US media was eating it up.
I even remember a news story from the time about how a couple here in Brooklyn had named their kid Hans Blix because he and Mohammed El-Baradei were considered heroes for trying to make the case for reasonable doubt during the weapons inspection process. Eventually Congress fell in line because they were presented with a heap of false evidence and were largely spineless. The President's approval rating was high and MOST people believed Hussein had WMDs, but that was never the issue as much as this deliberate narrative that was created to draw a link between Iraq and al qaeda, all of which turned out to be false of course.
No doubt support levels from the war differed from region to region. Those dumbasses in the south were the biggest supporters.
YAYYY the media at it again, you lap it up and believe everything they say LOL
IP - After 9/11, 99% of America wanted to kick someone's ass and Iraq fit the bill. Bush might have initiated the act, but the rest of the country followed with pitchforks and torches. We were all part of the mess.
bullshit
i wrote my Congressman imploring them to reconsider invading Iraq.
It feels like everyone was for it because the media was completely biased but a decent chunk of the US population was against it and many of the ones in favor were just naive and bought into the whole "trust your govt" thing. That is gone now.
SalaciousCrumb -RamK -I believe the words, repeated over and over and over, were "Iraq is a mushroom cloud waiting to happen."IP -mendelson -IP - After 9/11, 99% of America wanted to kick someone's ass and Iraq fit the bill. Bush might have initiated the act, but the rest of the country followed with pitchforks and torches. We were all part of the mess.Horse crap. It was just about the exact same day when all media, seemingly out of nowhere, changed headlines from bin Laden to Hussein. We went for no good reason and destroyed our nation so conservators like Cheney could profit on the blood of middle class Americans. He should be prosecuted first for treason for destroying our economy as an act of war, then for crimes against humanity in world court. That's fact.
Obama has been continually stymied by the childish antics of John nowhere and the right wing crybabies who blame him for everything bad in the past 150 years . I'm not saying the guy is the best Potus we've ever had, but he's certainly better than that nutless coward Bush.
You disagree that most of us wanted to storm troop into Iraq during that time period?
I don't think it started off that way. I remember a process of evidence being presented that convinced people and congress over time that Iraq was actively up to no good. Eventually people got on the bandwagon, but I don't think people were thinking "who's next" till Iraq became a nuclear power overnight.
It was carefully stated comments that weren't as specific as you mention. It was more like
"We can't wait for a smoking gun, which could come in the form of a mushroom cloud"
gregbrady -IP - After 9/11, 99% of America wanted to kick someone's ass and Iraq fit the bill. Bush might have initiated the act, but the rest of the country followed with pitchforks and torches. We were all part of the mess.
bullshit
i wrote my Congressman imploring them to reconsider invading Iraq.
It feels like everyone was for it because the media was completely biased but a decent chunk of the US population was against it and many of the ones in favor were just naive and bought into the whole "trust your govt" thing. That is gone now.
Hindsight is 20/20.
One of the worst things a government has done in the last few decades. Despicable.
jac0bear -IP - After 9/11, 99% of America wanted to kick someone's ass and Iraq fit the bill. Bush might have initiated the act, but the rest of the country followed with pitchforks and torches. We were all part of the mess.Yup. Funny how easy everybody tends to forget that and just points fingers.. I'm sure everybody posting on this thread were the true 1%ers though
I wish I had the ability (blue name) to go back and get my threads and responses to the Patriot Act and the Iraq War. I was SCREAMING that is was BS and there was no reason for it.
jac0bear -IP - After 9/11, 99% of America wanted to kick someone's ass and Iraq fit the bill. Bush might have initiated the act, but the rest of the country followed with pitchforks and torches. We were all part of the mess.Yup. Funny how easy everybody tends to forget that and just points fingers.. I'm sure everybody posting on this thread were the true 1%ers though
Yeah because that statistic is even remotely accurate....
MMA Lives Here -I don't know anything about it either you fool... Do you know why? Because the media LIE in everything so I don't take notice.Mr Makaveli - YAYYY the media at it again, you lap it up and believe everything they say LOL
Hey Seinfeld, you wouldn't know about any of this without the "media"
so STICK IT UP YOR ORSE
A staunch Conservative former Airborne guy who used to work for me explained Bush as the best President ever.
He said after all the Potus is about getting all the parties and people to do what they see as the vision for the country.
In this point he was correct, it had been a long time since a President had been able to hood wink the country and sell BS foreign policy as revenge.
I think the most disgusting thing done to America through these Police actions has been the traitor talk if you did not go along with the war drums.
America has been worked for years to divide people even if they have the same vision for the country.
I hope the citizens of America recapture their Government and show the World they are wrong thinking the US is becoming Nazi Germany.