Is Fedor vs. Sylvia a title fight?

I know it's the first event for a new organization, but to have this fight limited to 3 rounds would be disappointing. It could easily go the distance even if it was 5 rounds.

It makes sense that this would be their heavyweight championship fight. No sense going through a full tournament considering that Fedor is still recognized as the #1 heavyweight in the world and Tim is ranked #4-5 in every ranking I've seen.

The 2-3 between them are Couture (tied down legally), Nogueira (UFC), and Barnett (WVR). Barnett is the only one of those 3 that could beef right now to be more deserving of a title shot. But, he can always get a crack at the winner of Fedor-Sylvia if WVR will let him cross fight for another promotion.

If Affliction/M-1 really wants to make a statement that they're sticking around (and with Donald, they might just be), they should make this a title fight.

 I agree that this needs to be a title fight just to get the 5 rounder!


So is it a title fight??????????

Yay...more titles!

Whoever wins is the king of the steaming pile of shit.

 Very good question. They haven't said it is, so presumably that means it's not. And it does make you wonder why it wouldn't be. It would be a huge bummer if it went to decision after just three rounds.



"Barnett is the only one of those 3 that could beef right now to be more deserving of a title shot. But, he can always get a crack at the winner of Fedor-Sylvia if WVR will let him cross fight for another promotion."


Barnett is fighting on this card. Why would his fighting the winner of Fedor/Sylvia on another Affliction show be an issue?

It will be a fight for the HW linear championship.

Yeah, Fedor-Sylvia really should be 5 rounds.

And it's for the most meaningful title possible - the true World Championship, regardless of brand label.

The true #1 in the world is by definition the most (and ultimately only) legitimate World Champion around.

The one World Champion is not just the holder of a ceremonial title belonging to any specific promotion anyway - be it UFC, Affliction, Dream, or whatever.

Fedor-Sylvia will be a more meaningful "World HW Championship" fight than Nog-Mir - and even besides that fact, all high-interest fights should be 5 rounds anyway, regardless of any "title" at stake.

The answer to this question will come out next Saturday

opsy - "in two organizations how was one title more meaningful than the other? or are you just using mma math"

- When it comes to Championships, of course you necessarily have to use "mma math" - don't you? How else should a Championship get passed on?

Doesn't beating the Champ rightfully make you the Champ?

In fact, that's the only way. Valid title lineages are actually built on the very foundation of "mma math."

When Serra beat GSP - even though Serra himself wasn't ranked at the time, and didn't even deserve the shot in the first place - simply by virtue of "mma math" alone, didn't he still become the rightful Champ anyway?

Just by beating the rightful Champ himself, right?

So yeah, "mma math" has everything to do with Championships. The Champion loses - then the guy who beats him in turn becomes the Champion. And so on, and so on.

opsy - "nope, sorry your fight isn't interesting enough to have five rounds."

LOL.

If the #1 HW in the world fighting a top-5 HW still "isn't interesting enough" for you, then you're not going to have any "interesting enough" fights for you in the UFC's HW division as well.

opsy - "my original question was what makes one title more valid than the other. This belt isn't more valid than the belt of the UFC because we can only speculate using mma math who the real champion is."

Again - "mma math" is the very method by which real championships are passed on, aren't they?

And no "belts" or "titles" alone are ever really "valid" on their own anyway.

Sherk beat Florian, who wasn't even top-20 at the time, to win a "belt" - but as a "World Championship" it was completely meaningless. It was purely a "title" in name only.

Likewise, if Dream calls Diaz-Sakurai a "title fight" - and if Diaz beats Sakurai, who isn't even top-20 any more, to win some "belt" - then that "World Championship" will be just as meaningless a paper title as well.

So ask yourself - what really makes a true "World Championship."

The most - and ultimately only - authoritative way to define a true World Champion is when the established top-2 guys in the world face each other, to thus rightfully establish a true #1 and Champion.

That has always been the authoritative standard of definition for a true World Championship.

And guess what?

For the HW division in MMA, that actually happened first in the UFC - where they established the original valid World HW Championship of NHB/MMA with Severn-Coleman, the two established top HW's in the world at the time.

And if you go by the lineage of that original true World Championship, the true World HW Championship thus ends up with Fedor.

Or even if you want to start later than that, the fact is that Fedor was the universally acknowledged #1 in the world and Nog was the universally acknowledged #2 in the world when they met in the finals of the Pride HW GP.

And Fedor beat Nog again, to end up being the true HW Champion of MMA by that route as well.

The true Champion is the one with the most legitimate claim to being #1 in the world. That's what World Champion ultimately means.

And for the HW division, that one #1 has been Fedor.

BUT FEDOR DONT FITE NUBDY

Just fucking with you man, I agree.