Since he refused to fight any replacement that was offered, and injuries can happen at anytime, what would keep this from happening to another event he headlined?
Yeah UFC will likely keep him on the prelims now, just for safety.
Ughh. 
good question...
They will just have him headline better cards in the future, and not just rely on his fight. UFC was becoming boxing, it just caught up to them sooner rather than later.
SupesUp -Yeah UFC will likely keep him on the prelims now, just for safety.
Ughh.
Yeah, or you could try using logic for a change and figure he could still be a co-main where he could get a smaller percentage of the draw and not be a risk of imploding another event.
<blockquote>studiocamp - <blockquote>SupesUp - <br /><br />Yeah UFC will likely keep him on the prelims now, just for safety. <br><br>Ughh. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical<br />align:middle;"/><br /><br /><br /></blockquote><br />Yeah, or you could try using logic for a change and figure he could still be a co-main where he could get a smaller percentage of the draw and not be a risk of imploding another event.</blockquote>ha yeah use your logic, it helped him figure out jones is to much of a PPV risk.
LilBrockonmychest - You spelled Hendo wrong. Jones was ready to fight.
Jones was willing to fight one person only. Hendo would've fought Chael if it had come down to it.
kumma - <blockquote>studiocamp - <blockquote>SupesUp - <br /><br />Yeah UFC will likely keep him on the prelims now, just for safety. <br><br>Ughh. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical
align:middle;"/><br /><br /><br /></blockquote><br />Yeah, or you could try using logic for a change and figure he could still be a co-main where he could get a smaller percentage of the draw and not be a risk of imploding another event.</blockquote><br /> <br /><br />
ha yeah use your logic, it helped him figure out jones is to much of a PPV risk.
What's flawed about my logic? After 151 getting cancelled, nothing seems improbable now.
How would it be smart to risk another event on the chances of this happening?
studiocamp - Since he refused to fight any replacement that was offered, and injuries can happen at anytime, what would keep this from happening to another event he headlined?
What would keep this from happening with any fighter? It always comes down to what the fighter and his manager think is best, since there's nothing in the contract about fighting a replacement.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What's flawed in your logic is the point of a fucking headliner
orcus -studiocamp - Since he refused to fight any replacement that was offered, and injuries can happen at anytime, what would keep this from happening to another event he headlined?
What would keep this from happening with any fighter? It always comes down to what the fighter and his manager think is best, since there's nothing in the contract about fighting a replacement.
The fact it has never happened with any other fighter.
You honestly believe fans won't think twice now about buying tickets if he's the headliner? Ask the people who planned on going to 151 next weekend.
Yes and they will keep Hendo there as well due to age and knee problems, only prelims for those two. Or the UFC could put on events that don't only hinge on one fight.
It is interesting to see how this plays out with the UFC. People are saying look at Dana/Silva after 112, thats not even close to the same thing. 112 tickets were sold, PPV were bought, Silva just fought like a dumbass and Dana had to call him out on it but the money was made already, the event went on. So he has good performances after that and everything is cool.
Jones declined a fight, didnt do the UFC a favor, in their eyes killed an event and cost them alot of money.
You can forget the Silva 112 performance because they didnt lose money and he performed better after that. Doesnt matter if Jones goes out and smashes Vitor and they sell 500k PPV and its a sellout and Jones looks great, Dana/Lorenzo are never gonna forget that Jones didnt do them a favor and help them out when they needed him.
They will never forget that no matter how many good performances he has. And now moving forward they have to worry about cards he is on because if something happens he showed them he isnt a team player.
This def is gonna impact his relationship with the UFC. They will still promote him because its all about money and if he can make them money they will promote him but is Dana gonna go full out to support him and call him the greatest and hype him up like crazy?
Jones had the UFC by the balls for this event, he could have demanded more money, instant rematch clause in case he lost, he could have asked for anything and they probably would have given it to him.
That makes a lot of sense. Put the most exciting fighter the organization has on the Facebook prelims. I mean, he takes his belt and legacy serious; how dare he turn down a fight.
The guy has fought murderers row of the 205 division; seriously look at his run and he has one decision win and the rest are no-doubter finishes. He is a guy that feels that his preparation is a huge part of his success. Why give that up if he doesn't absolutely have to?
I'm probably in the minority on this one, but I think it sucks that the situation worked out the way it did but in the end, "it's a business" is what Jon Jones will hear later in his career when he is fading and the UFC decides to move "in another direction" and cuts him or his pay. I don't have THAT much of an issue with Jon Jones telling Zuffa that today.
I await my green up arrow turning to a red down arrow.
studiocamp -SupesUp - Yeah UFC will likely keep him on the prelims now, just for safety.
Ughh.
Yeah, or you could try using logic for a change and figure he could still be a co-main where he could get a smaller percentage of the draw and not be a risk of imploding another event.
I was being sarcastic pal.
Samoa - That makes a lot of sense. Put the most exciting fighter the organization has on the Facebook prelims. I mean, he takes his belt and legacy serious; how dare he turn down a fight.
The guy has fought murderers row of the 205 division; seriously look at his run and he has one decision win and the rest are no-doubter finishes. He is a guy that feels that his preparation is a huge part of his success. Why give that up if he doesn't absolutely have to?
I'm probably in the minority on this one, but I think it sucks that the situation worked out the way it did but in the end, "it's a business" is what Jon Jones will hear later in his career when he is fading and the UFC decides to move "in another direction" and cuts him or his pay. I don't have THAT much of an issue with Jon Jones telling Zuffa that today.
I await my green up arrow turning to a red down arrow.
Yeah, because there is no such thing as a co-main event or a main card. There is only the main event and FB prelims.
Come negotiation time, he is going to get royally fucked. Where's he gonna go?? Strikeforce?? LOL, he will realize how bad he fucked up throughout the rest of his career.
He's still headlining if he is a co-main event right? I guess well agree to disagree. I don't think he has fucked up his career that badly, you do. We will see. If he gets kicked out or can't sign a deal, worth anything, you'll be right.
I don't think that this will be that big of a deal in terms of his ability to earn.
studiocamp -Samoa - That makes a lot of sense. Put the most exciting fighter the organization has on the Facebook prelims. I mean, he takes his belt and legacy serious; how dare he turn down a fight.
The guy has fought murderers row of the 205 division; seriously look at his run and he has one decision win and the rest are no-doubter finishes. He is a guy that feels that his preparation is a huge part of his success. Why give that up if he doesn't absolutely have to?
I'm probably in the minority on this one, but I think it sucks that the situation worked out the way it did but in the end, "it's a business" is what Jon Jones will hear later in his career when he is fading and the UFC decides to move "in another direction" and cuts him or his pay. I don't have THAT much of an issue with Jon Jones telling Zuffa that today.
I await my green up arrow turning to a red down arrow.
Yeah, because there is no such thing as a co-main event or a main card. There is only the main event and FB prelims.
Come negotiation time, he is going to get royally fucked. Where's he gonna go?? Strikeforce?? LOL, he will realize how bad he fucked up throughout the rest of his career.
What is Zuffa going to do about him? Reduce his pay? Cut him? lol
They'll only end pissing off one of their few rising stars in an organization where most of them have retired or will soon enough.
Sounds like an amazing idea.
He clearly is a big deal, or else he wouldn't be holding an entire card along with Dan Henderson by themselves. Dana will have to make amends, like he does all the time, the guy is a freak and is not going anywhere.
studiocamp -orcus -studiocamp - Since he refused to fight any replacement that was offered, and injuries can happen at anytime, what would keep this from happening to another event he headlined?
What would keep this from happening with any fighter? It always comes down to what the fighter and his manager think is best, since there's nothing in the contract about fighting a replacement.
The fact it has never happened with any other fighter.
You honestly believe fans won't think twice now about buying tickets if he's the headliner? Ask the people who planned on going to 151 next weekend.
" The fact it has never happened with any other fighter. "
Dan pulled out due to injury last minute. That could just as easily have been Jones getting injured at the last minute. What difference does it make as far as booking if he turns down an alternate at the last minute, or gets injured at the last minute?
" You honestly believe fans won't think twice now about buying tickets if he's the headliner? "
No.
" Ask the people who planned on going to 151 next weekend. "
Okay, I'll ask those few thousand, half of whom probably would have gotten refunds once Dan pulled out anyway.