VectorWegaLives -4pdboxing - "moms last name is Shin and looks oriental"
Like an "Oriental" rug?
You mean a rug from the Orient? Kinda like a Hawaiian rug or an American rug?
i thought he was puerto rican? silly me
VectorWegaLives -BzGrappla - his mom is part hawaiin..
Like a "Hawaiian" shirt?
Being born in Hawaii after 1959 (when it became a state...not a U.S. territory), makes you American!
BJ is a local braddah!
FYI-Living in Hawaii for a long time makes you kaimaaina!
asians
bismanfightclub -I guess you never heard of adoption. fucking inbred moron.
Being considered Hawaiian depends on how you see Hawaii. If you see it solely as a state in the US then anyone born in Hawaii would be an American. If you see it as an occupied sovereign nation, then the people not of native blood who are born there would be considered children of the occupation, and would still be Americans. Native Hawaiians are ethnic natives (sounds simple enough, but some people still don't get it). Although people could call themselves Hawaiians in reference to the state, like New Yorkers or Californians. They still wouldn't be Native Hawaiians though, unless they had the ethnic bloodline.
Native Hawaiians aren't considered Native Americans. Congress and the Bureau of Indian Affairs pretty much went on a rampage in the thirties to break up all the tribes and subsequently refused to acknowledge any new tribes. Hawaii didn't become a state until 1959, precluding the natives from receiving Native American protection and recognition under US law.
There is no defined tribe or native governing body, so being Native Hawaiian right now is more about preserving a cultural heritage than being part of any legally defined group. There also isn't a defined level of blood relation to Native Hawaiians that makes a person considered to be a Hawaiian. There are some programs in Hawaii (mostly from OHA, Office of Hawaiian Affairs) that require a specific level of blood relation, most of the time it's half Hawaiian in order to qualify for any government programs specifically for Hawaiians.
Native Hawaiians do exist, my family and I are living proof. My father is full Hawaiian and I am half, or hapa haole which means half white, half Hawaiian.
On a side note, BJ wears Kau Inoa shirts, but when I asked him what he felt about the Hawaiian sovereignty movement and how he would like to see the issue handled, he gave me the most retarded round-a-bout answer. Don't get me wrong, just having him wear the shirt out to fights have prompted many people to ask me more about the movement, which is a good thing. The guys is a good fighter and an icon in Hawaii, but he's got a long way to go before I would consider him any kind of spokesperson for Hawaiians. -ken
KnuckleBumps - self-explanatory on the tan IMO
VectorWegaLives -BabyZeus - Being born in Hawaii after 1959 (when it became a state...not a U.S. territory), makes you American!
BJ is a local braddah!
Was he born before or after 1959?
bismanfightclub -Steamfitter -bismanfightclub -I guess you never heard of adoption. fucking inbred moron.
I didn't know BJ Penn was adopted. Why didn't you say so right away moran!
VectorWegaLives - BTW, the definition of "orient" that you used is an archaic term that is rarely used. The main definition for the Orient is "The countries of Asia, especially of eastern Asia."
Hawaii, by history, was a hodge pdge of other Polynesian tribes. Tahitian, Samoan, even Maori.
Astroninja - Hawaii, by history, was a hodge pdge of other Polynesian tribes. Tahitian, Samoan, even Maori.
BJ isnt black.....
I don't know if you have to be smart or just know how to watch TV to realize that was his real dad. The guys name was Jay DEE Penn, hello people. I don't think he changed his name to match all the boys.
Astroninja is right about native hawaiins being polynesian but wrong about the order very wrong samoans, maoris and other polynesian groups are all descended from the hawaiins. Bj penn does look lik
Astroninja is right about native hawaiins being polynesian but wrong about the order very wrong samoans, maoris and other polynesian groups are all descended from the hawaiins. Bj penn does look like he has poly blood even if your parents have only a small amount of the blood it can still be expressed quite strongly in appearance, would also explain the chub factor. LMFAO at the idiots confusing polys with native americans
....BJ is Brazilian.
KnuckleBumps -lmao (because it's true!)720 - I just cant understand how dark BJ is given that both his mom and dad are light skin.
he DOES live on an island and rarely wears a shirt
VectorWegaLives -Orientals apparently don't like to be called that.4pdboxing - "moms last name is Shin and looks oriental"
Like an "Oriental" rug?
You mean a rug from the Orient? Kinda like a Hawaiian rug or an American rug?