GongandDash -shen -I'm actually kinda curious what the OP's take is on the worst punch in boxing. --Left hook...? Right cross...?
I guess they're both so stupid it's probably hard to decide.
<span class="User-333473" id="userPost52527165">Its not a great comparison. Armbar from mount is relatively big, risky movement when there are a number of safer ways to finish. For example, the mounted guillotine, mounted triangle/armbar, collar choke. There's no harm in challenging perceived wisdom, right? <img alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" src="/images/phone/droid.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></span></blockquote>
You know what...? You're just wasting your time here talking to a bunch of people who clearly don't understand jiu jitsu as you do...
Instead, you should get out there and do seminars on this discovery --really get the word out! Blow the lid off this thing!
You could maybe have a room full of BBs each start in the mount and try to go for their foolish, sloppy, loose armbars and you --with your thousands of hours of mat time-- could easily show how simple it is to counter them, one after another. I think that would really open people's eyes to this great truth you have uncovered.
Because --no offense to the people on this forum-- but obviously they just aren't getting it.
Don't waste your time thowing pearls at swine.
shen -GongandDash -I can't believe I hurt the butt of a forum legend. I can go back to lurking now!shen -I'm actually kinda curious what the OP's take is on the worst punch in boxing. --Left hook...? Right cross...?
I guess they're both so stupid it's probably hard to decide.
<span class="User-333473" id="userPost52527165">Its not a great comparison. Armbar from mount is relatively big, risky movement when there are a number of safer ways to finish. For example, the mounted guillotine, mounted triangle/armbar, collar choke. There's no harm in challenging perceived wisdom, right? <img alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" src="/images/phone/droid.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></span></blockquote>
You know what...? You're just wasting your time here talking to a bunch of people who clearly don't understand jiu jitsu as you do...
Instead, you should get out there and do seminars on this discovery --really get the word out! Blow the lid off this thing!
You could maybe have a room full of BBs each start in the mount and try to go for their foolish, sloppy, loose armbars and you --with your thousands of hours of mat time-- could easily show how simple it is to counter them, one after another. I think that would really open people's eyes to this great truth you have uncovered.
Because --no offense to the people on this forum-- but obviously they just aren't getting it.
Don't waste your time thowing pearls at swine.
um just wow. not teaching today....thought i d give the og a visit. ok op.....appreciate the question, check out saulo ribieros videos on theories of creating a LOCKED position. from the mount. to facilitate the transition to the armbar. unless your bored and just trolling. then good job.
Markus Barrett -I'm not trolling in the sense I do believe it was worth debating about a risky move. But I did slightly exaggerate my position for my own amusement. Guilty!
um just wow. not teaching today....thought i d give the og a visit. ok op.....appreciate the question, check out saulo ribieros videos on theories of creating a LOCKED position. from the mount. to facilitate the transition to the armbar. unless your bored and just trolling. then good job.
GongandDash -The Ghost Of Swayze -I've also seen more failed armbars from mount than any other submission. Fail rate goes up when the stakes are higher - mma, competition etc.GongandDash -awright9269 -As someone who's been on the mats for 1000s of hours my opinion is valid. Ever watched higher belts sit under mount and wait for lower belts to try the armbar so they can escape?Christophr -LolGongandDash - The stupidest move in grappling?! 'Oh hey guy on bottom I'm bored of crushing you to death and fantasising about how I would be punching you in the face if it were MMA. here let me take my weight off you and give you room to move.' I bet Marcelo already ditched it from his repertoire.
I take it you're new to this "jiu jitsu" thing.
"On the mats for 1000s of hours" and you've never been crushed by the weight of an upper belt armbarring you from the mount? I call shenanigans on that claim.
More than armbar from guard? I call shenanigans once again.
My #1 sub
But I hit it everywhere. If my pressure is off and they come up. I go belly down.
Who is this instructor with a room full of guys who cant land armbars from mount?