Is this the new breed of judging?

First the King Mo vs Rampage fight and now this? I like the emphasis on damage and strikes landed but this guy in TUF had a point taken away and gave up his back for 12 min yet still was awarded the decision. I think the judges are starting to listen to us more. I personally like it but it's still a little shocking since I'm not used to this type of judging. Congrats to both winners though cause they actually came to fight. Phone Post 3.0

Sofa King Cool - I think it's great. If one guy comes to fight and the other guy comes to avoid a fight then it's the right decision. Phone Post 3.0
This Phone Post 3.0

PS, the guy on TUF was pretty much a human blanket... Who got cut in about 3 different places due to elbows and strikes thrown mostly when he was in the dominate position... Phone Post 3.0

Sofa King Cool - I think it's great. If one guy comes to fight and the other guy comes to avoid a fight then it's the right decision. Phone Post 3.0
I agree Phone Post 3.0

Judged as a single round fight, the wrestler kid still won IMO. Despite being a human blanket for the first 2 rounds, I thought he did the most damage in the 3rd. I do like this new judging, but you can't just completely ignore a fighter getting dominated. Back control and submission attempts HAVE to count for something.

Rashad rampage was a blanket, the kid had his back for 90% of the fight how can you ignore that for a few elbows? Phone Post 3.0

I sure hope it is. Phone Post 3.0

ima zombie - Rashad rampage was a blanket, the kid had his back for 90% of the fight how can you ignore that for a few elbows? Phone Post 3.0
To be fair, it was a bunch if elbows and not just elbows, but punches too... A lot Phone Post 3.0

ima zombie - Rashad rampage was a blanket, the kid had his back for 90% of the fight how can you ignore that for a few elbows? Phone Post 3.0
Because the kid who had the back punched the other guy maybe 4 times in that 12 minutes. Yes he did try for the RNC a lot in one of the rounds but never came close to ever having it.

I look at that as throwing many punches but never landing. Why should submission attempts count for points but "punching attempts" not count for points. Phone Post 3.0

The judges and Athletic Commissions are lining their pockets while destroying MMA that we love. the fans, fighters, and MMA loses in the end. oh how i miss the days when you had to finish you opponent. Its a shame we can't just abolish judges altogether. Have a set number of rounds, and time limit. Either you finish the guy within time, doctor stoppage/injury, or its a draw. Phone Post

I don't think Zapata landed anything in the first either. Most of the elbows he threw where only landing with his bicep.
10-8 9-9 9-9 and the 10-8 doesn't win?
I'm all for fine tuning the judging but that was a travesty. Phone Post 3.0

Kubla khan - I don't think Zapata landed anything in the first either. Most of the elbows he threw where only landing with his bicep.
10-8 9-9 9-9 and the 10-8 doesn't win?
I'm all for fine tuning the judging but that was a travesty. Phone Post 3.0
Technically that would be a majority draw. But since there needed to be a winner, they had to circle one and they all chose Zapata... Even the guy who gave the 10-8 to the other fighter circled Zapata... It was a little confusing but hey the actual fighter won Phone Post 3.0

T H R I F T Y - PS, the guy on TUF was pretty much a human blanket... Who got cut in about 3 different places due to elbows and strikes thrown mostly when he was in the dominate position... Phone Post 3.0


illegal elbows.

if you cant get a guy like stephens off your back or cant get up then fuck off out of the cage, it was the worst robbery in tuf history and makes MMA seem like a joke, Zapata was rag dolled for 15 fucking minutes, that decision cannot be justified at all.

MexyCant - I had Zapata losing. The slam was huge. Zapata kept attemptn to grab da fence a lot to prevent the takedown and to attempt to stand back up. Mazzaggatti did warn him about the elbows a bunch of time too. Isn't the fighter held responsible to control his elbows?

How is he a blanket when he was in back control for most of the fight looking for a choke and everyone knows how hard it is to choke someone out with the gloves?

Dana oversteps his boundaries as a promoter. Lets just say the facts that as a promoter, he didn't want the wrestler to win which means that he was bias and has his favorites. Dana is just trying to sell fights and get people to stand and bang anymore for higher ratings and to sell advertisements and that is not MMA. Just watch Glory for that.

So let me get this straight, the ref is supposed to stop the clock to give a "final" warning after already warning the fighter previously, at the rule meetings and don't they also talk to the fighters individually before the fights? How many freaking warnings does he have to give this guy to make Uncle Dana happen.

Dana just hates Mazzagatti. Thats it case closed.
The "Blanket" didn't do anything when he took his back, just a few punches. That's it, attempting a rear naked the whole fight while getting punched and elbowed in the face... Plus he was never even close to locking in the submission. That's how they judged the fight. Steve did say warnings but never told him this is your final warning, he just ran in there and said 1 point taken away, he didn't even say time out right there, he just ran in there taking the point away. They are judging fights differently now as the sport is changing. All these so called blankets are getting cut from the big shows and I think that's really influencing the judges. It's great IMO Phone Post 3.0

armbarheelhook - The judges and Athletic Commissions are lining their pockets while destroying MMA that we love. the fans, fighters, and MMA loses in the end. oh how i miss the days when you had to finish you opponent. Its a shame we can't just abolish judges altogether. Have a set number of rounds, and time limit. Either you finish the guy within time, doctor stoppage/injury, or its a draw. Phone Post


That's fucking retarded. Finish or a draw? One of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

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MexyCant - I had Zapata losing. The slam was huge. Zapata kept attemptn to grab da fence a lot to prevent the takedown and to attempt to stand back up. Mazzaggatti did warn him about the elbows a bunch of time too. Isn't the fighter held responsible to control his elbows?

How is he a blanket when he was in back control for most of the fight looking for a choke and everyone knows how hard it is to choke someone out with the gloves?

Dana oversteps his boundaries as a promoter. Lets just say the facts that as a promoter, he didn't want the wrestler to win which means that he was bias and has his favorites. Dana is just trying to sell fights and get people to stand and bang anymore for higher ratings and to sell advertisements and that is not MMA. Just watch Glory for that.

So let me get this straight, the ref is supposed to stop the clock to give a "final" warning after already warning the fighter previously, at the rule meetings and don't they also talk to the fighters individually before the fights? How many freaking warnings does he have to give this guy to make Uncle Dana happen.

Dana just hates Mazzagatti. Thats it case closed.

The "Blanket" didn't do anything when he took his back, just a few punches. That's it, attempting a rear naked the whole fight while getting punched and elbowed in the face... Plus he was never even close to locking in the submission. That's how they judged the fight. Steve did say warnings but never told him this is your final warning, he just ran in there and said 1 point taken away, he didn't even say time out right there, he just ran in there taking the point away. They are judging fights differently now as the sport is changing. All these so called blankets are getting cut from the big shows and I think that's really influencing the judges. It's great IMO Phone Post 3.0


That "Blanket" did more damage in the last round than Zapata. It was a sudden-death round with a must decision. There is no way to justify Zapata winning the fight.


I'm going to assume you are a Zuffa employee by looking at your recent threads. Let Dana know that despite his dreams of the sport becoming Ultimate Cage Kickboxing, it isn't going to happen.


 

Wasn't TUF recorded a year ago Phone Post 3.0

caposa -
T H R I F T Y - 
MexyCant - I had Zapata losing. The slam was huge. Zapata kept attemptn to grab da fence a lot to prevent the takedown and to attempt to stand back up. Mazzaggatti did warn him about the elbows a bunch of time too. Isn't the fighter held responsible to control his elbows?

How is he a blanket when he was in back control for most of the fight looking for a choke and everyone knows how hard it is to choke someone out with the gloves?

Dana oversteps his boundaries as a promoter. Lets just say the facts that as a promoter, he didn't want the wrestler to win which means that he was bias and has his favorites. Dana is just trying to sell fights and get people to stand and bang anymore for higher ratings and to sell advertisements and that is not MMA. Just watch Glory for that.

So let me get this straight, the ref is supposed to stop the clock to give a "final" warning after already warning the fighter previously, at the rule meetings and don't they also talk to the fighters individually before the fights? How many freaking warnings does he have to give this guy to make Uncle Dana happen.

Dana just hates Mazzagatti. Thats it case closed.

The "Blanket" didn't do anything when he took his back, just a few punches. That's it, attempting a rear naked the whole fight while getting punched and elbowed in the face... Plus he was never even close to locking in the submission. That's how they judged the fight. Steve did say warnings but never told him this is your final warning, he just ran in there and said 1 point taken away, he didn't even say time out right there, he just ran in there taking the point away. They are judging fights differently now as the sport is changing. All these so called blankets are getting cut from the big shows and I think that's really influencing the judges. It's great IMO Phone Post 3.0


That "Blanket" did more damage in the last round than Zapata. It was a sudden-death round with a must decision. There is no way to justify Zapata winning the fight.


I'm going to assume you are a Zuffa employee by looking at your recent threads. Let Dana know that despite his dreams of the sport becoming Ultimate Cage Kickboxing, it isn't going to happen.


 


Lol ok boss whatever you say Phone Post 3.0

caposa - 

Judged as a single round fight, the wrestler kid still won IMO. Despite being a human blanket for the first 2 rounds, I thought he did the most damage in the 3rd. I do like this new judging, but you can't just completely ignore a fighter getting dominated. Back control and submission attempts HAVE to count for something.


Apparently they do count for something... just not more than elbows and punches to the face

As I stated in my thread, remember the Bas Rutten vs Kevin Randleman fight?