Hi,
I'm just trying to get the footwork right for this combo. I've gotten much better at putting power into the jab by using the falling step. But my understanding is that you should step with the cross to get the range right but I find after I've landed a good jab I can't get the footwork right for the cross. It seems like I can land a good solid jab or I can throw a good right cross but I can't do both. Any tips?
Go to a boxing gym and work with a good coach.
Throw a short jab, flick it out, but don't aim for any sort of power behind it.
Only step forward a small amount or if you prefer don't step but still move your weight forward onto your front leg.
then follow your straight right behind the jab.
The jab is only there for you to find your range and set up the cross.
Jab THEN Cross...?
Usually those two punches don't work too well together.
"The jab is only there for you to find your range and set up the cross. "
Why would you say that? The jab is there to hit the gut with if you can. You should never just "flick" it out there.
He has a footwork problem. Period.
"Usually those two punches don't work too well together."
Without getting an arguement about semantics and what a cross is, he is obvioulsy talking about throwing a jab and following it with a rear side straight punch. So your position is that you cannot throw two straight punches in a row?
"Usually those two punches don't work too well together."
Without getting an arguement about semantics and what a cross is, he is obvioulsy talking about throwing a jab and following it with a rear side straight punch. So your position is that you cannot throw two straight punches in a row?
MAYBE it's possible, I'm just saying it's not orthodox and would not recommend trying it.
Sorry, but I am getting this. He is talking about two straight punches in a row. It should not matter what type of punches, but we are talking either a right /left or a left /right. What is the big deal?
Please explain why this is not orthodox?
I just don't think people should throw more than one punch in a row. That's all.
e kaye, just ignore this BS! Every jab can and should do damage, and throwing a cross after a jab is highly orthodox!
footwork problem for sure. A coach will explain that shifting your balance between feet will be the key to crossing after a jab. Spend a lot of time syncronising your footwork to your left and right hand attacks. The biggest novice issue!
When you step with a jab you will shift your weight to your front foot and then back to the rear (or right, if orthodox) again on the cross. practise this on the heavy bag, but i'll be damned if i would have been able to do this properly without some solid coaching.
shen-I seriously hope that you are joking/trolling.
"Why would you say that?"
I'm basically referring to throwing a solid one-two combination, using the jab to set up a hard straight right.
Not when throwing the jab in other circumstances.
The way that I was taught is that the best feint is a punch the other guy does not want to get hit with.
I don't have my copy of Dempsey's Championship Fighting at my side, but I think that he calls the lead hand strike using the falling step the "Jolt".
Dempsey mentions in his book that when a certain champion boxer threw a jab you could hear his foot hit the floor.
shen is trolling, and rather well at that. Im a little suprised no one picked up on it though, he was being pretty obvious.
The "falling step" can be used with a jab. Its a way to get more power behind a jab and turn it from a range finder into a stunning punch. IMO a jab can and should be both. Your should be able to flick it out there to judge distance and set up shorts, but you should also be able to stun with it to CONTROL distance and make your opponent worry about it.
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banco, the problem youre having is a normal one, especially for new fighters. Learning to step correctly with the 1-2 is without a doubt the most common problem new people have when they come down my gym.
Start from your stance, push off your rear foot and step forwar with your lead foot like you normally do. Now pause here. You should have your feet spread a good foot or so from your original stance.
From here pick up your rear foot and bringing it just barely off the groung, step the same distance you did with the lead foot. Thats the basic idea, step lead step rear.
Once that feels normal start twisting your legs and hips as you step for power. You should end up with your rear heel facing to the side and your rear shoulder and hip facing forward.
A good learning tool to get the step right is to "STOMP" with the rear foot as you put it down. Example: Step lead foot/jab, step rear foot and stomp it into the ground/cross.
I really cant get much more detailed than that just writing. If it doesnt make sense, watch some vids on youtube or better yet see a professional coach and have him walk you through it.
Good luck.
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There's use for both a stiff jab and the faster flickier type jab.
You shouldn't be doing a falling step in the middle of a combination, it destroys your balance and leaves you flat footed. Dempsey only recommends to use it for single well timed punches, but it could equally be used for the last punch of a combo. But never in the middle or for the first punch.
I agree with Shen. Boxing is great and all, but how can you possibly improve Shotokan's philosophy of "One strike, one kill"? I would highly recommend sticking to "one punch combinations".
An example such combination would be "overhand ridge hand". Another would be "chambered reverse punch with right hand". Yet another would be "chambered reverse punch with left hand". The combinations are endless, yet devastating.