Jacksons MMA + Tristar have the lowest Finish Rate

in 2012, Jacksons MMA (30%) and Tristar (35%) had the lowest finish rates of any major camp in the UFC.

the rest (aka, att, blackzillians, etc...) had around 50% or more.

50% of all UFC fights in 2012 were finishes...

credit goes to studiomma.com and mmanytt.se for the graphic.

The good news is that the UFC has a 52% finish rate...  that's an outstanding product. 1 out of 2 fights are finished.

The bad news is that Greg Jackson and Tristar are bringing the average down.  if every gym followed their methodology the UFC would have a 33% finish rate.... which means  only 1 out of 3 fights being finished.  That's a huge difference in product quality.

Further proof that Firas Zahabi and Greg Jackson train point fighters.

Also how much higher is the caliber of opponents they faced? Phone Post

Yeah there win rate is probably pretty high. People really should stop bitching about Tristar and Jackson so much because the still train exciting fighters. Winning a fight on points can be even more entertaining the finishing a fight ( as JDS vs Cain proved).

Kind of suprised about the Alpha male result though. Guess they really deserve the monniker. Phone Post

Thx for the stats though. Cheers. Phone Post

 Jacksons win rate isnt very high though...  even though he has the worst finish rate..

AKA had the highest win rate (74%) and aka had the second highest finish rate (58%).

Jacksons had a 52% win rate and 30% finish rate.  Tristar had a 60% win rate and 35% finish rate.  But you have to consider that a major factor in tristars win rate is that Zuffa gives their guys beneficial matchups because the candian market is so important.  The tristar win rate has more to do with supply and demand than successful training methodology.

YOu have a ton of american fighters... only a handfull of canadians by comparison so zuffa is pressured in general to give them advantageous match ups.

these numbers clearly demonstrate that point fighting doesnt equal a higher win rate. 

Point Fighting isnt a successful methodology.

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fightharder - 

Yeah there win rate is probably pretty high. People really should stop bitching about Tristar and Jackson so much because the still train exciting fighters. Winning a fight on points can be even more entertaining the finishing a fight ( as JDS vs Cain proved).

Kind of suprised about the Alpha male result though. Guess they really deserve the monniker. Phone Post


Fuck decisions, and people who make excuses for them.

Gooner H Smith - 

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I don't think they are an actual team.  Just a building that some fighters train at with their own teams.

some of the most exciting fighters in the sport train at tristar

 

Rory, Wonderboy, Jabouin, Makdessi, Menjivar, 

 

fuck off

Gooner H Smith - 

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They're a management team, very few of them actually train together regularly.

DamnSevern - 


some of the most exciting fighters in the sport train at tristar



 



Rory, Wonderboy, Jabouin, Makdessi, Menjivar, 



 



fuck off


Who are you telling to fuck off, and why?

I remember when I used to hate decisions, then the UFC started showing the prelims.

Tad Ghostal - 
DamnSevern - 


some of the most exciting fighters in the sport train at tristar



 



Rory, Wonderboy, Jabouin, Makdessi, Menjivar, 



 



fuck off


Who are you telling to fuck off, and why?


whoever is talking shit about tristar and whoever thinks a decision automatically means its a bad fight.

Is GSP included in both Jacksons and Tristar?

This kind of shows that being in a top camp really does help, as most of them have an above 50% win rate.

DamnSevern - 
Tad Ghostal - 
DamnSevern - 


some of the most exciting fighters in the sport train at tristar



 



Rory, Wonderboy, Jabouin, Makdessi, Menjivar, 



 



fuck off


Who are you telling to fuck off, and why?


whoever is talking shit about tristar and whoever thinks a decision automatically means its a bad fight.


I don't see anyone doing that. Are you pre-empting them?

Gooner H Smith - 

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Black House is Soares' management group not a fight team. The fighters that he represents train in several different gyms. Aldo is with Nova Uniao. Several guys are with Team Nog. Machida does has his own gym in Belem. Etc.

DamnSevern - 
Tad Ghostal - 
DamnSevern - 


some of the most exciting fighters in the sport train at tristar



 



Rory, Wonderboy, Jabouin, Makdessi, Menjivar, 



 



fuck off


Who are you telling to fuck off, and why?


whoever is talking shit about tristar and whoever thinks a decision automatically means its a bad fight.



Who said what about whom??? Because I don't see any posts on this thread worthy of your F-off response so they (mods/Kirik) must have already deleted them:)



 



Cindy

Tad Ghostal - 
DamnSevern - 
Tad Ghostal - 
DamnSevern - 


some of the most exciting fighters in the sport train at tristar



 



Rory, Wonderboy, Jabouin, Makdessi, Menjivar, 



 



fuck off


Who are you telling to fuck off, and why?


whoever is talking shit about tristar and whoever thinks a decision automatically means its a bad fight.


I don't see anyone doing that. Are you pre-empting them?


KingofFighters: `"Fuck decisions, and people who make excuses for them."

Surprised AKA had the most wins, it seemed like they were kind of struggling to me. Good for them.

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