Japanese luxury car maintenance costs?

It always gets mentioned that German brands cost a fortune in maintenance, but is it also the case for Japanese brands? Looking at a Lexus or Infiniti, possibly an Acura, but I'm wondering what the cost is for service. Are prices comparable to a Toyota/Nissan/Honda, or are you getting upcharged due to it being the higher end brand? Anyone who drives one of these have any comments on what you spend on maintenance?

Get a lexus

There are better people to ask, but one cost saving measure you can easily verify is that a Lexus uses many of the same parts as a Camry or Avalon.

Get a Volvo

VFR -

Get a Volvo

I’ve heard the opposite - never owned one myself but have several friends unload that suv due to cost of ownership 

Philanderer - There are better people to ask, but one cost saving measure you can easily verify is that a Lexus uses many of the same parts as a Camry or Avalon.

This is what I'm thinking. The Lexus is mechanically a Toyota, so there's no reason why it should cost more. But then again, a Gucci handbag shouldn't cost what it does either, so I don't know. There are for sure Lexus/Infinti owners on here who can speak to it

Wubbie Tooted -
VFR -

Get a Volvo

I’ve heard the opposite - never owned one myself but have several friends unload that suv due to cost of ownership 

Volvo’s are money pits

 

Lexus and Acura are very good. (Most models)



You see those old 90s Lexus models still on the road. The 400 series still holding resale value 20 years later. Acura makes a good auto in too

Toyota is 1
Honda is 2

Some infinity models have good reviews and others are kinda lemons.

Volvos look cool but have lots of issues. Audi has been getting better.
Porsche 911 are very good cars and most Porsche models now are getting good reviews.
The cayenne a few years ago was a money pit

Generally speaking the Japanese make the most dependable long lasting cars. Although sometimes they are boring in style & performance VS the Americans and European cars

Toyota’s are the best vehicles on the planet. 

But what I notice is certain stuff breaks a lot on certain vehicles and they tend to gouge you. For example like the master control switch on my lexus broke they wanted damn near 900 dollars for a new one. Little plastic Part of a seat on a Tacoma 200 dollars. Etc

 

Ive also found that most people do not believe in preventative maintenance when it comes to vehicles. Just run them into the ground and once something breaks fix it. 

GentileLarryDavid - 

Lexus is expensive to maintain when compared to a Toyota, but their service departments are top notch.  I will eventually buy another.  I only wish they made SUVs with more HP, like a M series or an AMG. 


I agree completely. My 4Runner is the best vehicle I've ever owned. 225k miles and no issues I bought it brand new.

My cock wants a Macan Turbo
My brain & heart wants another Toyota
I wish they had a SS or performance line

The Lexus LS400/430 & Fords Panther platform (Crown Vic, Town Car & Merc) are the most reliable cars of our time.

The added expense on the Lexus comes with the Ultra Luxurey package & its associated air suspension. Any model trim lower & you're set. Every 90-100k miles you will be stuck for a timing belt, water pump & idler arm bushing. That's about a $1200 job at most indy shops. Front suspension bushings(and probably dampners) between 100k-200k miles as well depending on your road conditions. Upgrading the Mark Levenson stereo is a costly endevor as well. Transmission is also "sealed" & has no service interval. This is total BS, change the damn fluid every 30-60k. 

 

The Town car also has air ride in the rear but seems to hold up a bit better. The 4.6L 2v can have guide wear issues on the chain drives but it's not too common. The heads will need a spark plug thread mod at some point as there are only 4 threads in the head holding them in place. Common fix. Stay on top of the transmission service on this one as well, in fact even more so as it's the only weak link. I've heard of taxi service companies installing bypass oil filters in the cooler line with great results, no personal experience with it though. Overall, the Town Car won't cost anymore than any other Ford of the era for parts. 

wise old man once told me that if you cant afford a foreign luxury car outright and in cash dont bother because you will get nickle and dimed to death on maintenance and repair. With that said I've owned an Acura, Audi, Saab (before they were owned by General Motors), a Lexus sc400, a Used BMW M3 and a shit load of American cars. If you can find a shady tree mechanic that is well versed in the repair of foreign vehicles then yes a foreign vehicle as far as cost goes down considerably. If you've never changed the oil in your car and you have to make payments on a foreign luxury vehicle then dont do it. At the end of the day if your looking at purchasing a foreign luxury vehicle and your on here asking about expenses for repair and maintenance then you cant afford it. 

rmenergy -

The Lexus LS400/430 & Fords Panther platform (Crown Vic, Town Car & Merc) are the most reliable cars of our time.

The added expense on the Lexus comes with the Ultra Luxurey package & its associated air suspension. Any model trim lower & you're set. Every 90-100k miles you will be stuck for a timing belt, water pump & idler arm bushing. That's about a $1200 job at most indy shops. Front suspension bushings(and probably dampners) between 100k-200k miles as well depending on your road conditions. Upgrading the Mark Levenson stereo is a costly endevor as well. Transmission is also "sealed" & has no service interval. This is total BS, change the damn fluid every 30-60k. 

 

The Town car also has air ride in the rear but seems to hold up a bit better. The 4.6L 2v can have guide wear issues on the chain drives but it's not too common. The heads will need a spark plug thread mod at some point as there are only 4 threads in the head holding them in place. Common fix. Stay on top of the transmission service on this one as well, in fact even more so as it's the only weak link. I've heard of taxi service companies installing bypass oil filters in the cooler line with great results, no personal experience with it though. Overall, the Town Car won't cost anymore than any other Ford of the era for parts. 

Great info, thank you. I don't mind a little higher cost and expect it for a higher end brand, but I don't want to be paying german luxury prices just to maintain the vehicle.

MayorPirkle -
rmenergy -

The Lexus LS400/430 & Fords Panther platform (Crown Vic, Town Car & Merc) are the most reliable cars of our time.

The added expense on the Lexus comes with the Ultra Luxurey package & its associated air suspension. Any model trim lower & you're set. Every 90-100k miles you will be stuck for a timing belt, water pump & idler arm bushing. That's about a $1200 job at most indy shops. Front suspension bushings(and probably dampners) between 100k-200k miles as well depending on your road conditions. Upgrading the Mark Levenson stereo is a costly endevor as well. Transmission is also "sealed" & has no service interval. This is total BS, change the damn fluid every 30-60k. 

 

The Town car also has air ride in the rear but seems to hold up a bit better. The 4.6L 2v can have guide wear issues on the chain drives but it's not too common. The heads will need a spark plug thread mod at some point as there are only 4 threads in the head holding them in place. Common fix. Stay on top of the transmission service on this one as well, in fact even more so as it's the only weak link. I've heard of taxi service companies installing bypass oil filters in the cooler line with great results, no personal experience with it though. Overall, the Town Car won't cost anymore than any other Ford of the era for parts. 

Great info, thank you. I don't mind a little higher cost and expect it for a higher end brand, but I don't want to be paying german luxury prices just to maintain the vehicle.

I used to own a Volvo V70XC & a V70R. Those cars cost me more money in maint. than all of my American vehicles combined over my entire lifetime haha.

I've never owned a Lexus LS but have friends & family with them. They are very solid cars that I wouldn't hesitate to own. I'll probably even get my son an 04-06 GS300/430 as a daily driver when the time comes FWIW.    

As far as Japanese higher end brands I've owned two Acura's and an Infiniti.  I've owned tons of other cars also.

The Infiniti was a low end model.  It was basically like a shittier Nissan Maxima (I've also owned a Maxima).  The parts were a lot more expensive than just about any other car I've owned.  It didn't break down that often but the expensive parts pissed me off.

The first Acura I had, I owned it for 5-6 years.  I financed it and paid it off.  Basic maintenance was fine.  3 years in tranny went out.  Had it rebuilt.  Got an aftermarket warranty and a couple of years later tranny went out again.  This time the warranty paid for the repair.  A month or two later the tranny went out again and the shop was on the hook for it.  They fixed it again.  I drove it around for probably another year or two and traded it in for my next Acura.

I've owned this car for about 8 years now.  It has never let me down.  I've only done basic maintenance on it and some very small repairs.  It's my daily driver.  I always think about buying another car but it's been such a great car that I really have no reason to switch.

The Acura's that I've driven have all been fun to drive and are comfortable.

My cars are fixed by regular local mechanics, no specialists and only go to the dealer for free recall repairs.  Acura tells you there is a recall, you call them up schedule an appointment and they give you a new car to drive around for a day or so while it gets fixed (all completely free).  Most of my other cars there is a recall and you're lucky if they give you a ride up the street.

Between 98-02 there were serious transmission problems in a couple of models of Acura's.  After that I think they were all just as reliable as Honda's (I'm sure there were exceptions here and there).

I stopped buying brand new cars many years ago and buy cars that are a few years old just to get a good chunk of the depreciation out of the way.

Timeshare Scum -
Wubbie Tooted -
VFR -

Get a Volvo

I’ve heard the opposite - never owned one myself but have several friends unload that suv due to cost of ownership 

Volvo’s are money pits

 

I have a 2006 S40 with 100k miles. In the last 3 years I've spent less than $1000 on maintenance and repairs. Best car I've ever owned. Turbo 5 cylinder gets 30+ mpg on the freeway. Super comfortable seats.

ttt

Get a Lexus, they’re bulletproof so there won’t be any repair costs and the regular maintenance is reasonable. German cars are about 2-3 times as expensive for maintenance and they also break fairly often. 

Just got the top of the line Mazda 6 with the turbo.

Thats as far into Japanese luxury as I need to go. And it’s dirt cheap servicing and insurance.

Lexus are dirt cheap to maintain.  Things run brilliantly.  Owned several, never an issue, just maintenance schedule.