JDS: Jones at heavyweight would be tough

I've been on TRT since 17 years old, I'm now 26. The advantages of juicing are highly overacted over. After taking test and deca, one time a week for 12 weeks followed by a 4 weeks off than repeat for the rest of my life. I feel like after years of that experience and knowledge of working with a professional and being an athlete I've come to a deeper understanding of the actual margin of benefit it provides. You people seem to focus on the strength gain and dub that cheating. However a look doesn't help and a bit of a strength gain do not in no way make a fighter the fighter he is. Overeem doesn't throw with great technique because of a high level of test. He throws great combos and fights with fantastic technique. The success he has is because of years and years of training, and what some call "high performance thinking". Pouring 10,000 hours into a single attack movement to master it. Point being steroids do not make you number 2 in the world. Steroids don't provide fighting ability or knowledge to be elite. Training does provide knowledge and fighting provides the experience. It's sad to say, but if you can relate you'll understand which fighters get my point, and have seen it from this side of the street.


So flame or call me a troll just remember who has actual experience on this issue. Junior, Cain, Cormier have all trained/fought with someone, who has been on something or had taken something. I do not think I need to point out the signs. These guys also already understand that, too believe differently would be a slap to their intelligence. So why not take a fight with Overeem? Reason? Ahh.. that fundamental element of no reason perhaps. However I can not wrap my head around that concept of "naive fighters". If you know and understand the drugs and deal with the margin of benefit you deal with daily from others you train with. Than why not fight anyone. Please don't be so naive and stuck in that illusion. Please seek Disillusion.

Chaz Johnson - I've been on TRT since 17 years old, I'm now 26. The advantages of juicing are highly overacted over. After taking test and deca, one time a week for 12 weeks followed by a 4 weeks off than repeat for the rest of my life. I feel like after years of that experience and knowledge of working with a professional and being an athlete I've come to a deeper understanding of the actual margin of benefit it provides. You people seem to focus on the strength gain and dub that cheating. However a look doesn't help and a bit of a strength gain do not in no way make a fighter the fighter he is. Overeem doesn't throw with great technique because of a high level of test. He throws great combos and fights with fantastic technique. The success he has is because of years and years of training, and what some call "high performance thinking". Pouring 10,000 hours into a single attack movement to master it. Point being steroids do not make you number 2 in the world. Steroids don't provide fighting ability or knowledge to be elite. Training does provide knowledge and fighting provides the experience. It's sad to say, but if you can relate you'll understand which fighters get my point, and have seen it from this side of the street.


So flame or call me a troll just remember who has actual experience on this issue. Junior, Cain, Cormier have all trained/fought with someone, who has been on something or had taken something. I do not think I need to point out the signs. These guys also already understand that, too believe differently would be a slap to their intelligence. So why not take a fight with Overeem? Reason? Ahh.. that fundamental element of no reason perhaps. However I can not wrap my head around that concept of "naive fighters". If you know and understand the drugs and deal with the margin of benefit you deal with daily from others you train with. Than why not fight anyone. Please don't be so naive and stuck in that illusion. Please seek Disillusion.
He said he would fight Overeem, he just said he thought Cain was more deserving because Overeem failed a drug test (part of the rules).
And you're saying others are delusional? Phone Post

This forum is being taken over by trolls, wannabees, ex pride die hards, keyboard warriors, and all that. Get over it, overeems is just a juiced ex pride, watch the pathetic
fight he gave werdum, I mean you really hope this guy will go 5 rounds against JDS or Cain? He couldnt even breath after round 1, keep dreaming and wasting bandwith on this forum

Oh Maaaah Goowd!!!!!

Of course he would rather fight a guy he already beat and KO instead of the reem, a very good and technical striker with CRAZY KNEES something that is lacking in JDS game

But honestly I would love to see both fights

Alot of fighters seem to be scared of fighting reem. Maybe they dont mean it, but look at interviews with cain, black fedor, jds... You cant really blame them tho.



How scared did JDS seem when the fight was actually scheduled to happen?

You know, before Reem tested positive and was a proven cheater? Are there interviews before the positive test where JDS seemed scared of that upcoming fight to you?

Farewell Brock - Being scared, and respecting the sport are 2 different things.

He said he would fight whoever the UFC puts infront of him.

However he feels as if reem doesn't deserve the shot because he failed drug tests;
This doesn't mean he's scared, it means his opinion is that reem shouldn't be pur ahead of clean fighters who got to where they have without cheating. Phone Post
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Chaz Johnson - I've been on TRT since 17 years old, I'm now 26. The advantages of juicing are highly overacted over. After taking test and deca, one time a week for 12 weeks followed by a 4 weeks off than repeat for the rest of my life. I feel like after years of that experience and knowledge of working with a professional and being an athlete I've come to a deeper understanding of the actual margin of benefit it provides. You people seem to focus on the strength gain and dub that cheating. However a look doesn't help and a bit of a strength gain do not in no way make a fighter the fighter he is. Overeem doesn't throw with great technique because of a high level of test. He throws great combos and fights with fantastic technique. The success he has is because of years and years of training, and what some call "high performance thinking". Pouring 10,000 hours into a single attack movement to master it. Point being steroids do not make you number 2 in the world. Steroids don't provide fighting ability or knowledge to be elite. Training does provide knowledge and fighting provides the experience. It's sad to say, but if you can relate you'll understand which fighters get my point, and have seen it from this side of the street.


So flame or call me a troll just remember who has actual experience on this issue. Junior, Cain, Cormier have all trained/fought with someone, who has been on something or had taken something. I do not think I need to point out the signs. These guys also already understand that, too believe differently would be a slap to their intelligence. So why not take a fight with Overeem? Reason? Ahh.. that fundamental element of no reason perhaps. However I can not wrap my head around that concept of "naive fighters". If you know and understand the drugs and deal with the margin of benefit you deal with daily from others you train with. Than why not fight anyone. Please don't be so naive and stuck in that illusion. Please seek Disillusion.



Maybe you should spend less time juicing and more time getting a handle on English composition. That was a rambling, nigh incomprehensible mess.

One question for the expert: If, as I believe you were trying to communicate, steroids give an athlete virtually no advantage, why take them?

It amazes me that people think that these warriors are scared to fight. Fedor signed up to fight in a tournament that Overeem was also fighting in. How is that ducking? Phone Post

imontoya - I mean you really hope this guy will go 5 rounds against JDS or Cain? He couldnt even breath after round 1, keep dreaming and wasting bandwith on this forum




Actually I don't. The longest fight from the 146 card (all HW's) never made it past 3:30 in the second round. With the level of striking talent these two possess, I really don't see this making it far into the second round if it even leaves the 1st.

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Ryan Black - Lol, JDS uses the english language like a boss. With a smile in his face too because he's unaware of the way he's miswording things, but it's awesome to read what they quote him saying, without picturing his smile and demeanor he sounds like the ultimate bad ass. "Jon Jones is good. Really good. But if he moves up I don't care. I will fight him. If they make me fight him, I will win. I don't care about him."<br><br> Lol might as well say "Yeah, Jones is good. But if he moves up I don't give a shit. I'll knock him the fuck out. Come fight me. I will knock you out. Want this belt motherfucker? Come and get it. You'll be cutoff with a massive uppercut, halfway through your pursuit."<br><br>I just wish someone would tell him to end an interview by telling the interviewer to "suck it." "Alright ladies and gentlemen, UFC Heavyweight Champion Junior Dos Santos. Thank you for joinin us Junior, and we look forward to your next fight! Junior: "Thank you John. Suck it. Goodnight." Boss. <img src="/images/phone/droid.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>



Yes Mr. Dos Santos. As your language coach I can assure you that it is polite to end your interviews is by saying "suck it."

And no one would even have the balls to correct him.

Ariel would... and JDS would smile and repeat himself- then Helwani would shrug his shoulders and assume the position as JDS walks away, smiling and waving... leaving Ariel feeling confused and oddly rejected. Phone Post

I like the new trend where every time a fighter says something negative about another fighter, they are "scared" or "ducking".

jds would reck reem...cain jds 2 will be awesome..love jds attitude towards fighting anyone

there you go, Jon Jones is feared by the champ

there you go, Jon Jones is feared by the champ

JDS vs Jones Bones will be a interesting fight indeed.

Entreri - JDS will KO Overeem.

JDS has a lot of power in those hands and a great chin, Overeem is very suspectible to the KO.

JDS needs to be careful of Overeems kicks/knees.



This!!!

orcus - I like the new trend where every time a fighter says something negative about another fighter, they are "scared" or "ducking".


 It isn't really any fighter though, it tends to just be the Brazillian Champions that this forum loves to call "ducker/coward/pussy". 

Jon Jones flat out said he would rather not fight Silva. That he would rather LEARN from Silva....

Wierd how no one calls him a ducker.

The UFC imagines that Jones would be their Ali or Jordan, and so they weren't open to Jones fighting at heavyweight when Jones himself suggested it, and I doubt anything's changed that drastically since...unless, the drunk driving incident alone changed that train of thought, and or the mounting inuries to fighters we're seeing, in addition to the drunk driving incident is enough to get Dana and Co. to roll the dice.