We do not have a right to the labor of others.
I agree with the sentiment but health insurance is fucked for hard working people too. I’m in the steel workers union in Pennsylvania. 1035. My health insurance is awful. Money gets taken out of paycheck every week. 950 deductable and 70% coverage after that. Max out of pocket 6500. Idk maybe it’s not that bad but it’s extremely restricting. 150$ to go see doctor before my deductable. Had to pay about 2000 after my deductable for 2 cat scans last year. If I had a child it would put me at the max out of pocket. Each family member has there own deductable if I had kids. Any semi serious injury would cost me thousands. It’s better than some but I’d prefer to live in a world where medical expenses are comparable.
Lol. Bro I have a $6000 deductible and EVERYTHING is full price until I meet that. It also has a ton of limitations once met. It’s garbage.
That’s disgusting. It’s one of those things I guess though. Dont like it, find a new job. Figured i could work for a union and get decent benefits but no. And the union renegotiation isn’t for two years either.
Fat people should have their own risk pool.Let them pay for the shit coverage that is a result of their fatness. Let people who take care of their health see a financial benefit from that. If you are fit and lean why should you be paying the same rate as someone who has a BMI of 30?
The only thing I entertain at all in anyway from Democrats is talk about health care change. I understand the concept of capitalism creating competition which drives up competitive quality but it’s not working. I get shit service and waiting times and a very high price.
The dude who is the district manager for my place now said the insurance is high because the industry is generally full of unhealthy people.
I said we should bring somebody down from the insurance company and I’ll do 20 fucking dead hang pullups in front of them for better insurance.
It’s fucking garbage. We are not a small company either
If you’re a county cop or EMS here you can get top of the line blue cross and blue shield with a $500 deductible for $6 a month, but you won’t make a livable wage, especially in EMS.
Lol its deeper than that. The health industry was shit during trump too.
All this talk about social democracy as socialism or communism is nonsense. Especially the healthcare argument. You pay taxes, you get benefits. Some pay more, others pay less, but benefits for all. Roads, schooling, etc. Health insurance should also be included. At least very reasonable healthcare for people who are working. Corporate health insurance is a racket as is corporate medicine. The discussion is far deeper than what I can post in a few lines, but the end point is that social democracy is not socialism and Masvidal is not someone who seems knowledgeable/educated enough to be providing advice to the general public. He, like Lebron, gets a platform because he is an athlete.
I agree with the pay your own way sentiment totally. People have forgotten that you can be self made and don’t need to have your fucking hand out all the time.
I bet it was much better before Obama care messed things up. Mine was.
there’s too many regualations and requirements for capitalism to actually work in regards to healthcare. Be real, no company is going to want to insure a 300lbs type 2 diabetic that refuses to watch what they eat or exersice. It’s simply not worth it unless you can charge well more than they can afford in most cases. So we have we have a completely broken system.
And other things like insulin costing hundreds of $$$? that’s disgracefull.
but that happens all the time in America. Do you think all the people getting shot in our cities that wind up in the hospital are paying thier bills? There are millions of $$$$ in “free” services and benifits given out all over the country.
Having good health care especially for hard working people/families would have a net benifit over time for us. People missing less work days or being able to be more productive would help our society.
its been shit for a long time but Obama completely butt fucked it.
My insurance before him was paid for by my company with free rx, 100 dollar er, 10 dollar copay for dr visit, lots of free shit and 500 deductible for extra shit.
Now if I want insurance its as much as my fucking rent with 3k deductible…per individual… and goodRX gives better prices than my fucking insurance does
its literally worthless unless something massive happens that would bankrupt me anyhow so despite being firmly middle class with nice house cars etc and what not i do not have health insurance at all.
we have dental and vision … both of which suck balls
I found a Dr that is much, much cheaper for cash and he refers me to other specialists who give major discounts for cash. For instance WITH insurance my appointment with a specialist was 400 to walk in the door AFTER the insurance. Thru my Dr cash network I pay 80 to 100 for a visit and any tests etc are also quite affordable.
I wind up paying literally thousands less to pay cash than if I had insurance per year.
I know I am sorta fucked if/when I get cancer and shit but no guys live past early 60s in my family anyhow so I only gotta make it another 10 or 15 years.
Got my wife a really nice life insurance hook up for when I kick it and that’s that. Rather have that fucking 10 grand a year for vacations than utter shit insurance.
I wish he would take is white privilege and sit down.
They need to address the real issue, why is medical costs so high. It’s the same thing when talking about student debt, if you fix the lost of medical and education these problems go away. We focus on dealing with the result of the problem not the actual problem
People should be building their own roads too, otherwise we are just under the government thumb.