K so end for Wand? but tito is still prime?

So, wand is coming off a lay off yes. But he actually has a W as of the recent past over a top contender in Bisping.... Tito gets lucky once in 10 years and he still has a job?

WTF?

Tito hasn't been KOd brutally like that, ever. Phone Post

But did Tito's "getting lucky" consist of his getting to fight an opponent who was coming off a loss to Jon Jones?



We'll know more about that when Shogun fights Forrest, I suppose.



 

Tito hasn't had his light switch turned off repeatedly.

Weird huh? Let's do Wand/Tito II.

Wand has had ALOT! Tougher fights in his career than Tito and that takes it's toll on a person. No matter how great you are. It's time for Wand to hang em up..... Phone Post

OneTwo17 - Wand has had ALOT! Tougher fights in his career than Tito and that takes it's toll on a person. No matter how great you are. It's time for Wand to hang em up..... Phone Post

Dude Tito has had just as an impressive career don't shit on titos opponents Phone Post

AnthonyBrancato - But did Tito's "getting lucky" consist of his getting to fight an opponent who was coming off a loss to Jon Jones?

We'll know more about that when Shogun fights Forrest, I suppose.

 

Nothing lucky about punching a man to his knees and submitting him sir Phone Post

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AnthonyBrancato - But did Tito's "getting lucky" consist of his getting to fight an opponent who was coming off a loss to Jon Jones?



We'll know more about that when Shogun fights Forrest, I suppose.



 
Nothing lucky about punching a man to his knees and submitting him sir Phone Post


That's why I placed quotation marks around "getting lucky" - but I do think Bader's loss could be the start of a trend of fighters losing after a Jon Jones fight; and if Shogun does lose to Forrest, the case for such a trend becomes that much stronger, as Shogun is favored to win, as Bader was.

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OneTwo17 - Wand has had ALOT! Tougher fights in his career than Tito and that takes it's toll on a person. No matter how great you are. It's time for Wand to hang em up..... Phone Post

Dude Tito has had just as an impressive career don't shit on titos opponents Phone Post


I didn't shit on his opponents... But if you put his and wands career side by side who's fought better comp?. Just being realistic buddy! Phone Post

Wandy needs to retire..... His body cant take the sport anymore despite his desire to still fight..... Boxing has no one to stop older boxers from competing when they shouldnt.... Hopefully someone will tell him to stop Phone Post

Realistically they both have had quality opponents wand losing more devastating than Tito ever has but who can blame either for losing to fighters like that. I think wand lost to more quality opponents pretty badly, but mostly because of his style of fighting. While Tito for the most part losing competitively. Tito as you can see still has a glimmer of hope were for wand is long gone. And is on the "chocolate al" road to lose after lose till retirement. Phone Post

AnthonyBrancato -
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AnthonyBrancato - But did Tito's "getting lucky" consist of his getting to fight an opponent who was coming off a loss to Jon Jones?

We'll know more about that when Shogun fights Forrest, I suppose.

 
Nothing lucky about punching a man to his knees and submitting him sir Phone Post

That's why I placed quotation marks around "getting lucky" - but I do think Bader's loss could be the start of a trend of fighters losing after a Jon Jones fight; and if Shogun does lose to Forrest, the case for such a trend becomes that much stronger, as Shogun is favored to win, as Bader was.

But even before shogun lost to jones I still thought Forrest was a huge threat to shogun. If shogun loses I won't be surprised. So can you really say it's a jones effect. The janitor has gotten knock out wins after losing so how much faith do you put into your theory? I think it's just an excuse to make tito look less impressive. Especially since people viewed Tito as a under dog is not a huge under dog. I give HUGE props to Tito the old man showed up to own ass. Phone Post


I say Tito/Wand 2 makes sense.

id take wandy

Wanderlei has had more wars and overall greater number of quality opponents.

Daverr -
I say Tito/Wand 2 makes sense.

id take wandy

After watching Tito win and wand loss in such a way that it makes you question his long term health you'd still put hard earn money on wand? You sir are one hardcore fan and I respect that. Expect to loss that bet 9/10 times. Tito may beyond a resonable retire wand if they fight. Tito just took out a top 10 fighter by almost everyone's top 10 rankings. Phone Post

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Daverr -
I say Tito/Wand 2 makes sense.

id take wandy
After watching Tito win and wand loss in such a way that it makes you question his long term health you'd still put hard earn money on wand? You sir are one hardcore fan and I respect that. Expect to loss that bet 9/10 times. Tito may beyond a resonable retire wand if they fight. Tito just took out a top 10 fighter by almost everyone's top 10 rankings. <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>



Dude though, Tito doesnt hit hard at all..

thats why its a great fight for wand.

even that punch that dropped bader was weak imo


Leben hits like a truck, no way in hell tito kos Wandy.

not gonna happen

FCFBlazer - Tito hasn't been KOd brutally like that, ever. Phone Post

I have to do it. Lee Murray says otherwise. Phone Post

Entreri - Wanderlei has had more wars and overall greater number of quality opponents.

Also has just as many quality knock out losses to match his knock out wins. When viewed like that does his career look more exciting and visually pleasing than a career filled with wins? I view wand as one of the best fighters to watch. but ever since leaving pride he's never even been considered a contender for a title. Sad really. Phone Post