K so end for Wand? but tito is still prime?

Daverr -
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Daverr -
I say Tito/Wand 2 makes sense.

id take wandy
After watching Tito win and wand loss in such a way that it makes you question his long term health you'd still put hard earn money on wand? You sir are one hardcore fan and I respect that. Expect to loss that bet 9/10 times. Tito may beyond a resonable retire wand if they fight. Tito just took out a top 10 fighter by almost everyone's top 10 rankings. <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>



Dude though, Tito doesnt hit hard at all..

thats why its a great fight for wand.

even that punch that dropped bader was weak imo

You should ask bader how weak that punch felt in all seriousness I think he'd disagree with your opinion and so do I. Phone Post

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Daverr -
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Daverr -
I say Tito/Wand 2 makes sense.

id take wandy
After watching Tito win and wand loss in such a way that it makes you question his long term health you'd still put hard earn money on wand? You sir are one hardcore fan and I respect that. Expect to loss that bet 9/10 times. Tito may beyond a resonable retire wand if they fight. Tito just took out a top 10 fighter by almost everyone's top 10 rankings. <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>



Dude though, Tito doesnt hit hard at all..

thats why its a great fight for wand.

even that punch that dropped bader was weak imo
You should ask bader how weak that punch felt in all seriousness I think he'd disagree with your opinion and so do I. <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>



well im telling you not everyone drops on that shot... at all. Yes it hit the right spot, but it sure wasnt hard or pretty..

Daverr -
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Daverr -
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Daverr -
I say Tito/Wand 2 makes sense.

id take wandy
After watching Tito win and wand loss in such a way that it makes you question his long term health you'd still put hard earn money on wand? You sir are one hardcore fan and I respect that. Expect to loss that bet 9/10 times. Tito may beyond a resonable retire wand if they fight. Tito just took out a top 10 fighter by almost everyone's top 10 rankings. <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>



Dude though, Tito doesnt hit hard at all..

thats why its a great fight for wand.

even that punch that dropped bader was weak imo
You should ask bader how weak that punch felt in all seriousness I think he'd disagree with your opinion and so do I. <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>



well im telling you not everyone drops on that shot... at all. Yes it hit the right spot, but it sure wasnt hard or pretty..

Only thing we can go by is that it dropped a top ten ranked mma fighter and NCAA wrestling champion. That "weak looking punch" dropped him so.....I dunno your keen eye or what everyone else saw watching that fight. Bader dropping and falling into a submission soon after as a direct result to a "weak looking punch" to the head. Phone Post


i see what your saying, the punch landed, it was titios night, and im not a fan of either// but im happy for tito..

still, I bet that this W is the last one for tito in the UFC

Hes just not that good..

and dont get me started on who Bader has beat to. Lil nog yea, is a good name, but to be honest, he was lucky to get that W.

That's your opinion and I doubt anything will change it. I just view it as black and white and don't believe in luck in fights. I've never been lucky fighting when I land a knock out it's because I was trying to land a knockout punch. Not because luck graced my ass and guided my hand to his face. Bad decisions are the only thing to be debated in fights but in my opinion When you get a submission or knockout win you own that person. So if you believe luck and rabbits feet can get you a top ten opponent win well...I'm putting a horse shoe up my ass next time and challenge Frankie Edgar to a championship fight. Fuck training Phone Post


Point taken, and yes your right, my views won't change.. this is because Tito has never ko d anyone standing b4, Im not sure if he's even dropped somebody either, could be wrong but you get my point..

when the guy hasn't won in 6 years or ever knocked somebody out, or submitted anyone.. I think luck can be involved a tad there...

Rookie Fighter - Realistically they both have had quality opponents wand losing more devastating than Tito ever has but who can blame either for losing to fighters like that. I think wand lost to more quality opponents pretty badly, but mostly because of his style of fighting. While Tito for the most part losing competitively. Tito as you can see still has a glimmer of hope were for wand is long gone. And is on the "chocolate al" road to lose after lose till retirement. <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


This is the UG bro. No need to put Chocolate Al in quotes. If they don't know who that is fuck em.

Only person he's knocked out I think is Ken shamrock and damn near killed Evan tanner with a slam. don't know if you've thought about it this way yet but when your threaten to be fired if you lose one more time you tend to perform to the best of your ability depending on how much you really want your job. Seems to me Tito really wanted his job. Everything can be viewed in one way or another. Phone Post

Aleck911 -
Rookie Fighter - Realistically they both have had quality opponents wand losing more devastating than Tito ever has but who can blame either for losing to fighters like that. I think wand lost to more quality opponents pretty badly, but mostly because of his style of fighting. While Tito for the most part losing competitively. Tito as you can see still has a glimmer of hope were for wand is long gone. And is on the "chocolate al" road to lose after lose till retirement. <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


This is the UG bro. No need to put Chocolate Al in quotes. If they don't know who that is fuck em.

You got it Phone Post

I think Wand should hang them up be inducted to the hall of fame, and then the ufc should make a Wandy greatest hits vid like they did with Rampage Phone Post

 tito lay and prayed his whole career so his brain isnt as fucked as silvas who traded standing death blows his whole career

 Tito has never been knocked out in his entire career, Wand has been knocked out cold in four of his last eight fights. Wand has little of the speed or endurance or recovery ability that he used to. Tito seems more or less the same as always, it's just the competition has improved.