Ken vs Kimbo: How long before they run out of gas?

No disrespect intended to either of these veterans but neither one was ever known as a five round cardio machine. How many minutes do you think this fight will go before someone's out of air? Phone Post 3.0

not long....this could turn into a feeling out process for 5 rounds.

Ken looks to be in pretty good shape.

Kimbo probably gasses first. Lots of muscle mass there, and if they tie up, Ken will be stronger than Kimbo thinks and have more efficient use of energy.

Ken should be about 4 lbs lighter than when he fought Kimo Leopoldo the second time. I'd bet that Kimo L. is better than Kimbo S. in a clinch, and probably stronger. Ken at 217 handled himself just fine; outclassing the bigger man once again.

Plus, I think Kimbo blows his wad in the first couple flurries. He will be looking to mug Ken and finish fast.

This might be a problem if Ken gets rocked... because I see the ref stepping in early off a flash knockdown.

The longer the fight goes, the better it should be for Ken.

All of that said... I really don't see this one going past the first round.

I could be wrong... but I see somebody getting dominated. Probably(and hopefully) Kimbo.

I honestly don't think this fight lasts 3minutes .. I'm expecting a big KO from kimbo. Ken is 51 now surly his chin has gone Phone Post 3.0

Ken prepared for this scenario by driving around with Bobby Razak in a Tesla Phone Post 3.0

Ken is a veteran. Kimbo never was anything in a legitimate venue. Phone Post 3.0

Ken via butt flop of death into a leglock.

clarenceworley - Ken via butt flop of death into a leglock.


i legitimately lol'ed.  Probably going to end up like this or something of the like.  If not, mid 2nd round before the horrible gas factor.  Or first 2 minutes.  Depends if they square dance the whole first round or not.  I can't see Kimbo lasting more than a 2 min tangle.  Old and whatever, Ken will still put some seriously solid 220 lbs on you and make you work.



 



Another thing, Ken is training a ton of standup (which worries me).   Think his knees are shot for full blown shoots and he's going to try to trade shots ?

Sakuraba_Overrated - I honestly don't think this fight lasts 3minutes .. I'm expecting a big KO from kimbo. Ken is 51 now surly his chin has gone Phone Post 3.0
I tend to think it will be quick as well... Ken gets a takedown or, more likely, Kimbo gets the KO. But if they both survive the first few minutes I can see a lot of clinching going on. Phone Post 3.0

TKD LOL - 
clarenceworley - Ken via butt flop of death into a leglock.


i legitimately lol'ed.  Probably going to end up like this or something of the like.  If not, mid 2nd round before the horrible gas factor.  Or first 2 minutes.  Depends if they square dance the whole first round or not.  I can't see Kimbo lasting more than a 2 min tangle.  Old and whatever, Ken will still put some seriously solid 220 lbs on you and make you work.



 



Another thing, Ken is training a ton of standup (which worries me).   Think his knees are shot for full blown shoots and he's going to try to trade shots ?


He said he wont.

Ken said Kimbo's only way to win is if he (Ken) gets over confident and tries to brawl punch for punch.

^^ Not an exact quote, but that was the jist.

Ken went to WAR with Frye, fought Tito at a furious pace with takedowns for 3 rounds but you're worried he's going to gas against KImbo?


Maybe the whole venue will get hit by a earthquake too you jerk bitch monkey headed small little idiot!

Shamrock1Fan - Ken went to WAR with Frye, fought Tito at a furious pace with takedowns for 3 rounds but you're worried he's going to gas against KImbo?


Maybe the whole venue will get hit by a earthquake too you jerk bitch monkey headed small little idiot!
Fujita bro.

I don't intend any disrespect to the chops, but sometimes when you bang all that you can bang there is still a bit of time left on the clock. Phone Post 3.0

Not gunna last long enough too.

Either ken subs him quickly or kimbo catches him early rounds I think Phone Post 3.0

rbl - 
Shamrock1Fan - Ken went to WAR with Frye, fought Tito at a furious pace with takedowns for 3 rounds but you're worried he's going to gas against KImbo?


Maybe the whole venue will get hit by a earthquake too you jerk bitch monkey headed small little idiot!
Fujita bro.

I don't intend any disrespect to the chops, but sometimes when you bang all that you can bang there is still a bit of time left on the clock. Phone Post 3.0

Fujita was a long time ago.

Ken is actually overlooked for the great conditioning he had pre-WWF. He might not have been one of the "conditioning pioneers" like Mi SMith, Frank, and Tito... But when did you ever see Ken gas prior to the Fujita fight?

There was more going on behind the scenes for that fight. Plus, Ken was stuffing takedowns and getting headbutted. Fujita is a big strong wrestler.

Even later in Ken's career when he hasn't done so well, conditioning itself has never really been labeled as the root of the problem. Injuries.. yes.

Of course I realize Ken is 51 years old.

IU'm just saying, the isolated incident in the Fujita fight has given Ken a bad rap for conditioning issues. In reality, conditioning has never really been a weakness for Ken. Early on... it was a strength!

^^^ "Mo Smith"

2 minutes in Kimbo will be sucking wind, hands at his knees. Shamrock will be on the ground going for a double leg in the process of having an asthma attack. This fight will end in the 1rst or second round by lung failure. Phone Post 3.0

It really depends on how long the walkout is.

Hopefully this one is BELOW sea level Phone Post 3.0

To expand on my last post...

I stated -- ""He (Ken) might not have been one of the "conditioning pioneers" like Mo Smith, Frank, and Tito""

This isn't really a completely fair account of ow things evolved.

Ken was bigger, so naturally "cardio" isn't the first thing you think of when looking back at his early career.

But I must say, to be accurate, Ken really was a "conditioning" pioneer.

Obviously, Mo Smith and Frank used conditioning to their advantage in a couple of high profile fights (Coleman, Tito). Tito himself learned from the loss to Frank, and made conditioning a priority going forward.

But Ken, perhaps unfairly, gets left out of this conversation a bit.

Ken was really the first NHB fighter to bring superior physicality to the table. Conditioning, as in the combination of strength/cardio, was a big tool in Ken's arsenal.

I would argue that based on technique alone, Ken would have been a good NHB fighter. But because he had his superior physicality behind that technique... Ken was able to dominate some of the best fighters of his time. Bas Rutten is a good example. Ken was simply too much for Bas physically, wherever the fight went.

Ken instilled serious conditioning in his Lion's Den fighters. Frank was a product of that system/training... and went on to have famous conditioning.

My long winded point is...

... While Ken might not have had the cardio of a smaller guy like Frank; he did have excellent overall conditioning for a muscular guy his size. He also had excellent conditioning compared to the fighters of the time.

Basically - Ken absolutely was a pioneer of cardio/overall conditioning as a main tool a fighter had to have. The legendary training sessions in the Lion's Den are an example of this.

Yeah... the Fujita fight was an issue. But that fight was an exception in an otherwise well-conditioned career.