Khabib vs Askren @162.5 lbs

iamthecawksucker -
Glowman -
GOAT St. Pierre -
Glowman - 

Askren has proved nothing and beaten no one.

He's only fought one good wrestler and he struggled greatly.

Maia would strangle him.

Ignorance truly is bliss huh?

What on earth does Askren bring to the table that would cause Maia any trouble?

He has also fought nobody.

His toughest fight ended with him thumbing the other guy in the eye because he was getting his ass kicked.

Come on dude... never go full retard.

He jammed his thumb into his eye because he was losing. That is a fact.

Glowman - 
GOAT St. Pierre -
Glowman - 
GOAT St. Pierre -
Glowman - 

Askren has proved nothing and beaten no one.

He's only fought one good wrestler and he struggled greatly.

 

 

Maia would strangle him.

			<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61542588"><span class="User-365924" id="userPost61541884">Ignorance truly is bliss huh?</span></span></blockquote>
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			<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61542588"><span class="User-365924" id="userPost61541884">What on earth does Askren bring to the table that would cause Maia any trouble?</span></span></p>
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			<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61542588"><span class="User-365924" id="userPost61541884">&nbsp;</span></span></p>
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			<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61542588"><span class="User-365924" id="userPost61541884">He has also fought nobody.</span></span></p>
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			<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61542588"><span class="User-365924" id="userPost61541884">His toughest fight ended with him thumbing the other guy in the eye because he was getting his ass kicked.</span></span></p>
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		<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61542588">I don't need to convince you, if you can't see a world class athlete and competitor then that's on you. Woodley's sparring partner and advisor for the Maia fight.&nbsp;</span></p>
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		<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61542588"><img alt="" src="http://www.bjpenn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Tyron-Woodley-and-Ben-Askren.png" style="width: 730px; height: 380px;" /></span></p>
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	<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61542588">So...he would sprawl Maia's takedowns? Cool story. I think Maia would be ok with that since his standup is much better.</span></p>

Based on what? All the times he got bloodied up? Ben would box Maia up.</p>

 

Standup skills for St. Pierre to savor

Askren would destroy Khabib.

Glowman -
iamthecawksucker -
Glowman -
GOAT St. Pierre -
Glowman - 

Askren has proved nothing and beaten no one.

He's only fought one good wrestler and he struggled greatly.

Maia would strangle him.

Ignorance truly is bliss huh?

What on earth does Askren bring to the table that would cause Maia any trouble?

He has also fought nobody.

His toughest fight ended with him thumbing the other guy in the eye because he was getting his ass kicked.

Come on dude... never go full retard.

He jammed his thumb into his eye because he was losing. That is a fact.

I'm talking about the rest of your post. Everybody in the MMA community understands that Askren is miles ahead of Woodley's wrestling game (even Woodley) and we saw what happened in Maia vs. Woodley. You either haven't educated yourself and are talking out of your ass, or you may well be retarded.
GOAT St. Pierre -
Glowman - 
GOAT St. Pierre -
Glowman - 
GOAT St. Pierre -
Glowman - 

Askren has proved nothing and beaten no one.

He's only fought one good wrestler and he struggled greatly.

 

 

Maia would strangle him.

			<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61542588"><span class="User-365924" id="userPost61541884">Ignorance truly is bliss huh?</span></span></blockquote>
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			<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61542588"><span class="User-365924" id="userPost61541884">What on earth does Askren bring to the table that would cause Maia any trouble?</span></span></p>
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			<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61542588"><span class="User-365924" id="userPost61541884">&nbsp;</span></span></p>
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			<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61542588"><span class="User-365924" id="userPost61541884">He has also fought nobody.</span></span></p>
		<p>
			<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61542588"><span class="User-365924" id="userPost61541884">His toughest fight ended with him thumbing the other guy in the eye because he was getting his ass kicked.</span></span></p>
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	<p>
		<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61542588">I don't need to convince you, if you can't see a world class athlete and competitor then that's on you. Woodley's sparring partner and advisor for the Maia fight.&nbsp;</span></p>
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		<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61542588"><img alt="" src="http://www.bjpenn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Tyron-Woodley-and-Ben-Askren.png" style="width: 730px; height: 380px;" /></span></p>
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	<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61542588">So...he would sprawl Maia's takedowns? Cool story. I think Maia would be ok with that since his standup is much better.</span></p>

Based on what? All the times he got bloodied up? Ben would box Maia up.</p>

 

Standup skills for St. Pierre to savor

Maia has better boxing than Askren.

He was handling boomerang face pretty well until he gassed.

They both school askren, khabib makes it look easier. 

Who has askren fought? As good as he MAY be, he never proved it against the best. 

ramaham -

They both school askren, khabib makes it look easier. 

Who has askren fought? As good as he MAY be, he never proved it against the best. 

Not necessarily about who he's fought... they are all grapplers and he's obviously the superior grappler.

Khabib has 2 KOs in the UFC and fights in the weight class below Ben. Askren>Woodley>Maia. Maia hasn’t had A SINGLE KO IN THE UFC… 10 YEARS IN THE ORG. He has 1 tko due to a muscle strain.

iamthecawksucker -
ramaham -

They both school askren, khabib makes it look easier. 

Who has askren fought? As good as he MAY be, he never proved it against the best. 

Not necessarily about who he's fought... they are all grapplers and he's obviously the superior grappler.

Khabib has 2 KOs in the UFC and fights in the weight class below Ben. Askren>Woodley>Maia. Maia hasn’t had A SINGLE KO IN THE UFC… 10 YEARS IN THE ORG. He has 1 tko due to a muscle strain.

How many subs though? 

Khabib would make Askren's wrestling look about as useful as Judo is in MMA. Khabib is a master of grappling, where as Askren is only good at one subcategory of grappling in wrestling. Khabib's standup is much better than Askren's. Khabib would not only beat Askren, he would finish him with strikes.

iamthecawksucker -
Glowman -
iamthecawksucker -
Glowman -
GOAT St. Pierre -
Glowman - 

Askren has proved nothing and beaten no one.

He's only fought one good wrestler and he struggled greatly.

Maia would strangle him.

Ignorance truly is bliss huh?

What on earth does Askren bring to the table that would cause Maia any trouble?

He has also fought nobody.

His toughest fight ended with him thumbing the other guy in the eye because he was getting his ass kicked.

Come on dude... never go full retard.

He jammed his thumb into his eye because he was losing. That is a fact.

I'm talking about the rest of your post. Everybody in the MMA community understands that Askren is miles ahead of Woodley's wrestling game (even Woodley) and we saw what happened in Maia vs. Woodley. You either haven't educated yourself and are talking out of your ass, or you may well be retarded.

He struggled with Jay Hieron.

It honestly doesn't matter how he does wrestling wise with Woodley, since he wouldn't make it that far to get to a title shot.

Glowman - 
iamthecawksucker -
Glowman -
iamthecawksucker -
Glowman -
GOAT St. Pierre -
Glowman - 

Askren has proved nothing and beaten no one.

He's only fought one good wrestler and he struggled greatly.

 

 

Maia would strangle him.

					<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61546338">Ignorance truly is bliss huh?</span></blockquote>
				<p>
					<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61546338">What on earth does Askren bring to the table that would cause Maia any trouble?</span></p>
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					<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61546338">&nbsp;</span></p>
				<p>
					<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61546338">He has also fought nobody.</span></p>
				<p>
					<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61546338">His toughest fight ended with him thumbing the other guy in the eye because he was getting his ass kicked.</span></p>
			</blockquote>
			<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61546338">Come on dude... never go full retard.</span></blockquote>
		<p>
			<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61546338">He jammed his thumb into his eye because he was losing. That is a fact.</span></p>
	</blockquote>
	<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61546338">I'm talking about the rest of your post. Everybody in the MMA community understands that Askren is miles ahead of Woodley's wrestling game (even Woodley) and we saw what happened in Maia vs. Woodley. You either haven't educated yourself and are talking out of your ass, or you may well be retarded.</span></blockquote>
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	<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61546338">He struggled with Jay Hieron.</span></p>
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	<span class="User-365924" id="userPost61546338">It honestly doesn't matter how he does wrestling wise with Woodley, since he wouldn't make it that far to get to a title shot.</span></p>

He fought Jay Hieron 7+ years ago and kicked his ass 4 rounds to 1</p>

 

Also Hieron was 22-4  and had won 10 fights in a row at the time.

“struggled with Jay Hieron”

Askren won that fight by Split decision.

GOAT St. Pierre -
RepsOne - 
GOAT St. Pierre - Now that Jones is inactive Askren is the best fighter in the world.

How many UFC wins does Ben have in a row? Let's not forget Bellator has a significantly stronger WW division than One did before Askren quit. He was fighting top 40 at best. He's about too 30 p4p until he puts his skills on display. Not saying he couldn't beat better competition, I think he can. Until he does, your talking down on a lot of warriors who fight tougher competition for pretty much nothing. Ben made the best of his situation. 

Benny’s the best.

Could have at least posted "Hard Knock Life" by Jay Z as a response old fella!

RepsOne -
GOAT St. Pierre - Now that Jones is inactive Askren is the best fighter in the world.

How many UFC wins does Ben have in a row? Let's not forget Bellator has a significantly stronger WW division than One did before Askren quit. He was fighting top 40 at best. He's about too 30 p4p until he puts his skills on display. Not saying he couldn't beat better competition, I think he can. Until he does, your talking down on a lot of warriors who fight tougher competition for pretty much nothing. Ben made the best of his situation. 

Dude.. You fell right in to that one

ramaham -
iamthecawksucker -
ramaham -

They both school askren, khabib makes it look easier. 

Who has askren fought? As good as he MAY be, he never proved it against the best. 

Not necessarily about who he's fought... they are all grapplers and he's obviously the superior grappler.

Khabib has 2 KOs in the UFC and fights in the weight class below Ben. Askren>Woodley>Maia. Maia hasn’t had A SINGLE KO IN THE UFC… 10 YEARS IN THE ORG. He has 1 tko due to a muscle strain.

How many subs though? 

He wouldn’t be able to land a takedown… reference the Woodley fight. Askren prepared Woodley for Maia.

Nytron -

Khabib would make Askren's wrestling look about as useful as Judo is in MMA. Khabib is a master of grappling, where as Askren is only good at one subcategory of grappling in wrestling. Khabib's standup is much better than Askren's. Khabib would not only beat Askren, he would finish him with strikes.

Nice opinions, but I can tell you have no idea what you're talking about.

2X NCAA Div. 1 Champion (collegiate)

Olympic wrestler (freestyle)

170 lbs.

VS.

2X Sambo “world” Champion (pretty much just russia)

155 lbs…

Hmmm

Royalt239 -

Askren absolutely rag dolls him. 

Ben is a legit wrestler for sure but hes not ragdolling him, that's just silly talk. 

The real reason I want Askren in the UFC is because they don't offer decent odds on his fights in Asia vs lesser competition lately. Since he's unbeatable there's some serious coin to be made.</p>

 

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Imagine this in the UFC..</p>

 

 

 

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They're gonna look at the footage one day and say he even had better elbows than Georges.</p>

 

 

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^^note the trapped arm, the beauty is in the finer points.</p>

 

 

 

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What will be looked at in the future is that GSP was a guy that bathed in his own blood and Askren was a guy that bathed in his opponents.</p>

 

 

Undefeated.</p>

 

 

Undisputed.</p>

 

 

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Askren’s grappling is cerebral as fuck.

I’m deeply bummed we never got to see him in the big show.