kickboxing or muay thai better?

I am just curious if you can train in kickboxing and later add knees and elbows and come a up with just as good results

I am just curious if you can train in kickboxing and later add knees and elbows and come a up with just as good results

I am just curious if you can train in kickboxing and later add knees and elbows and come a up with just as good results

I am just curious if you can train in kickboxing and later add knees and elbows and come a up with just as good results

Holy quad post batman.

Anyways, my coach teaches what he calls American Freestyle Kickboxing, more or less Muay Thai with a lot more emphasis on western boxing skills, more movement and head movement and boxing combos. Using them to encompass getting into the clinch and using punches to set-up the kicks. I don't see why you can't add them in later, I'd try and find someone who uses both thai and kickboxing.

Or you could just train Muay Thai from the start. Then you wouldnt have to try to figure all of these things out and ask so many questions that you would already have the answers for.
Tell Sam Adams, his friend Dave Rogers says "Hi" when you go in to train.

 

Normal MT - 

Or you could just train Muay Thai from the start. Then you wouldnt have to try to figure all of these things out and ask so many questions that you would already have the answers for.
Tell Sam Adams, his friend Dave Rogers says "Hi" when you go in to train.

 


Yes but many thai fighters have weak skills with their hands trying to adapt to MMA, if your not looking to get into it then by all means Muay Thai is for you, but IMO I think Kickboxing, or a freestyle kickboxing(Best choice IMO) is the route to go.

slagathor - 
Normal MT - 

Or you could just train Muay Thai from the start. Then you wouldnt have to try to figure all of these things out and ask so many questions that you would already have the answers for.

Tell Sam Adams, his friend Dave Rogers says "Hi" when you go in to train.


 




Yes but many thai fighters have weak skills with their hands trying to adapt to MMA, if your not looking to get into it then by all means Muay Thai is for you, but IMO I think Kickboxing, or a freestyle kickboxing(Best choice IMO) is the route to go.
Well many thai figthers might have weak hand skills, (who said anything about MMA btw) if they chose to not train their hands properly.

Really, are you going with that one?

You are a product, to a great extent, of how & what you train. If you want to be good with your hands, you can still be a shitty Wrestler, BJJ, or even a Welsh Gotckyskiverdoliack.

If you can find somebody who has decent Mitts skills you can have just as good Boxing as anyone else. And as far as I'm concerned a lot of Thai Boxers have very good Boxing skills.

Indeed they do, I have two coaches one is an American freestyle guy, and the other is a Muay thai guy. I prefer American Freestyle Kickboxing but, I also see a lot of things in muay thai that I don't see in freestyle. Both are great, everyone has their preferences and both can be useless if you don't adapt it.

san Da isn't exactly Muay Thai, but it's close. I've found that people who do american kickboxing have a very hard time making the transition to "international styles" with leg kick and clinching. I'd almost prefer they have no training

mwchamp - I am just curious if you can train in kickboxing and later add knees and elbows and come a up with just as good results


It depends on your goals. If you want to start with kickboxing and then add knees and elbows, why not start with Muaythai from the get go? There is a difference in style between Muaythai kicks and Kickboxing kicks. If you start with Kickboxing and jump over to learn elbows and knees later on, you will most likely have to change the style of your kicks as well.

Also, the transition into elbows, knees, and clinch have different setups. Something that might seem alien after training in kickboxing.

IMO, just go with MT right from the start.

When you say "kickboxing" are you talking about American above the waist kickboxing, or muay thai without knees, elbows and the clinch?

There are quite a few very good boxers in muay thai. Hell, the dutch fighters are pretty scary with their hand skills and quite a few thais are too. It really boils down to what you want to focus on as NormalMT said. In the same gym, you'll find guys with much better hands than other guys who have much better kicks, better knees, better elbows, etc. It's just kinda personal preference. I would recommend training MT and just work on your hands as much as you can if that's what you want.

I love traditional Muay Thai, but after switching to boxing I wish I had gone with Dutch style/K-1 style or even international rules early on. Everybody loves talking about the traditional Muay Thai trainers that have good boxing, mobility, head movement, defense, but they seem so rare.

But that said I'd skip American style or "Full-Contact" kickboxing, you're better off splitting your time between traditional Muay Thai and boxing than going that route.

Yeah, I think the dutch style is better for a guy who isn't starting with Muay Thai from a very young age. But you can always do Muay Thai and sprinkle in some boxing classes if you're worrying about lacking in the hands department.

 Embed didnt work, facking computers! "Best Kickboxing Instructional" video on the Underground, funny as hell.