Kid Yamamoto vs Ivan Menjivar Set for UFC 165

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Would've love to seen this a few years ago



Both pioneers and imo two of the best under 140lbs ever 


Yeah, this is even later than Randy/Nog, Wand/Chuck. Menjivar is probably in better shape than Kid though. Kid should retire imo. He's really lost it imo.

RearNakedToke - Trying out for the Japanese wrestling team killed KID's career. The time off, arm injury, and major knee injury he went through added quite a few miles to his body. He can't explode like he used to with one leg. Phone Post 3.0

That and the whole stardom thing, family drama, split with Enson, falling in love with his hands, losing any sense of the ground/submission aspect (see his guard vs Joe Warren). He is like Randleman imo, a crazy physical talent that could not put it together. Vitor seems to be finally coming into his own now.

war ivan!

ivan outworks kid easily. kid is the biggest waste of talent under 170 lbs.

This will probably go the same way every fight has gone when Kid fought someone who wasn't a can or over the hill...get beaten badly.