For starters, I feel like not warming up is a big problem. If you come in dry, you are much more easily rocked by punches. It was obvious to me that he was tight and wasn't getting off anything he wanted to. Lawler looked for big shots that might have been there had he set them up. Wading in was tougher with a guy who had a longer reach than he is used to fighting. I didn't see a lot of jabbing his way inside or good movement from Robbie at all instead, he looked to be loading up on one big shot. The body punch, which led to the first knockdown, was not set up at all. He simply leaned in and threw it. It was a very good punch but it was set up poorly. It would have been nice to see him throw punches in bunches but its hard to let your hands go like you want to when you are so dry.
buddie
Why would you say Lawler came in dry... that he didn't warm up?
The commentators mentioned it when the match was on.
Seems weird?
I took this from Joe Rogan who stated it as fact that he (Robbie) doesn't like to warm up he just wants to come out and fight. I think this is a very bad idea for numerous reasons.
buddie
Agreed. Not warming up, especially for a big match, is a very bad idea. Coming from my limited experience (amateur boxing, grappling tourneys), you need to be really warmed up, as in sweating a lot, to be in the proper physical and mental state to perform effectively.
I used to hate warming up too when I first started fighting. Now I wouldn't dream of stepping in the ring dry. I'm surprised a trainer like Miletich would allow Robbie to do that.
"Coming from my limited experience (amateur boxing, grappling tourneys), you need to be really warmed up, as in sweating a lot, to be in the proper physical and mental state to perform effectively."
coming from my also limited experience (amateur boxing, kickboxing, mma, grappling tourneys, and professional MMA bouts) you dont need to be sweating alot. In fact, I only stretch very good, hit mits for maybe a total of 1 full 3 minute round, do about 2 minutes of clinch wrestling, about 2 minutes of gaurd work, and then some no impact offensive/defensive shadow boxing. I am not sweating at all when I step in the ring.
I am not trying to bust your balls, I am just trying to make a point. To each his own. I Robbie doesnt like to warm up before he competes, who is going to tell him otherwise?
If Pat thought it a problem, I would think he would be the guy to do so. But robbie knows his body better than anyone, and I am sure nobody questioned his pre competition workout when he was wrestling in high school, and nobody questioned t when he reeled off 7 wins in a row before taking his first loss to spratt.
Lawler's boxing was terrible... He was beat by a basic jab...
lol@ the experts
Oh, because Rogan said so. OK? Just because Lawler doesn't like to warm up (which could be sparring, rolling, jumping rope, calisthenics, etc.) doesn't mean he did not warm up for this fight. His t-shirt was soaked... maybe from sweating Diaz? I think not. Anyway, it was overall a good fight with both fighters learning from it.
Regardless of the warming up issue (which I know has a direct influence on performance) That still doesn't address Robbie's failure to set up the body shot, his seeming inability to get inside the longer arms of Diaz even with his hands down by his waist. (One of those big Lawler bombs on Diaz' chin and it would have been over IMO), or Lawler throwing only one punch at a time, leaning in and looking for the kill shot.
I know he thinks of himself as a guy who likes to box first, so why isn't he jabbing his way in, setting up body shots or throwing punches in bunches? To me, that was the story of the fight. Robbie being tight, looking for one shot and getting outworked and out boxed.
buddie
" I am not trying to bust your balls, I am just trying to make a point. To each his own. I Robbie doesnt like to warm up before he competes, who is going to tell him otherwise?"
Good point. For me, I just need to shadowbox or skip rope until I'm drenched in sweat just to calm my nerves. I've always been a high-strung dude.
to answer that question you have to know what was going on with Robbie the weeks leading up to the fight. I dont know, but this is just an example of a guess.
First of all, Robbie is a young kid and probably hears all the time what a baddass he is. Ego is probably pretty big, and for good reason. He hears the hype about his heavy hands, and maybe it makes him open up a bit more when fighting. He believes the hype, and wants to let his hands go.
On top of that, maybe he got wind that Nick Diaz planned on standing and trading with him. Remember that clip of Robbie getting his hands taped on the MFS pay per view special? He says, "I going to fucking kill this kid." I could see him with that attitude coming into this fight. that makes him want to open up even more and throw bombs.
So they get in the fight, and diaz slaps Robbie and calls him a bitch in the middle of the fight. That probably angers robbie.
All these things combined make a serious difference in the way Robbie sets up his punches. He is known for his heavy hands, so he doesnt want to dissapoint. Diaz wants to stand, so he knows the opportunity for a KO will be there. AND, Diaz has pissed him the fuck off, making robbie be even more agressive. So he is throwing BIG shots the whole fight instead of boxing.
But it is anyones guess I suppose
Lawler did not take Diaz seriously. I did not read a lot of posts here that anybody else did either. It was a very exciting fight. Lots of respect to both fighters.
it had less to do with robbie, and more to do with diaz.