any suggestions?
Seen a alien one, not sure on the good names of watts(or whatever) is 90 good for wattage? on a led?
how about 120?
thanks
The 90w eBay special UFO are shit. 240w min I would say. The black star panels are decent if you are gonna budget. If you have a large budget I would look into induction lighting. Low energy and No heat and very high par rating. Check them out at Inda-grow.com , they are spendy. 
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they suck. doesnt compare to hps mh combo. i bought the ufo for shits and giggles at my first house. havent plugged it in for a few years now. just buy a ballast that uses both MH and HPS bulbs and make sure the hood has ducting sleeves and buy a valueline 6 inch fan for $90.
All the ones that are cheaply priced are junk. One LED in the chain goes out and your entire light goes out. And it WILL happen quickly and often. If you don't know how to diagnose which LED goes bad and how to replace it (requires soldering and shit), you're shit out of luck.
The good ones tend to be the really expensive ones made in the USA and stuff. But they're so expensive and right now they're no more energy efficient than T5 fluorescent bulbs which the fluorescent industry is quickly switching to. The good LED systems will be around 3-5 times the cost of a T5 system for the same amount of light output at the same amount of energy draw.
If you want a really good, well constructed, and pretty good looking 4 bulb x 48" long grow T5 fluorescent system for around $125-150, do a search on the ViaVolt. Home Depot sells it online for around $140 with shipping included. It's constructed well with two built in switches to control the 4 lamps, and hangs up easily. Or you can go to a Home Depot store and just look for shop lights that use T5 bulbs. They'll be cheaper but not look as good and you have to do a little bit of wiring yourself and setting it up to hang.
Daylight fluorescents will grow plants fine. If you want to get into specialized spectrums that are strong in the red or blue range (which is the only reason why you should even think about LEDs), then you can buy fluorescent actinic bulbs for the blue range, and fresh water plant bulbs for the red range, both from aquarium supply stores or online.
i got a 600 hps,
but just was thinking led is the way to go now with low cost and heat
but yea,
i dont want to spend a grand
maybe 5 bills tops if its real good
t5 are shit for budding though. they're great for clones. i have 4 shelving units i use for my clones and each shelf has 2 T5s going across them. if you want good bud growth, then high pressure sodium is what you want when you switch to 12/12.
the key to keeping your lights cool is having a hood that the ducting can connect to the exhaust fan. getting the hot air out and keeping them cool all at once helps a shitload for (especially small) grow areas. after a few crops i bought the chill king system. its a god send.
any1 know much about auto flower plants?
seem they are better know, figure good for persoal grows maybe
Drugs_Delaney - t5 are shit for budding though. they're great for clones. i have 4 shelving units i use for my clones and each shelf has 2 T5s going across them. if you want good bud growth, then high pressure sodium is what you want when you switch to 12/12.
Switch the light bulbs to plant grow, which is higher in the red spectrum.
High pressure sodium is powerful but very energy wasteful, and most of its spectrum is wasted because so much is yellow light. It makes up for it through sheer power, but isn't efficient at all.
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T5 can flower well. I use a spectra led panel and a 6bulb x 2ft t5 for side lighting for my personal grow. Get just as good results as when I used HPS but without all the extra energy cost and cooling. I would only use hps if you are cash cropping but if its a couple plant personal stash grow its not worth the excess cost and danger(having a hps bulb blow and nearly start my closet on fire made me retire the hps).
500 bucks I would look into induction lighting.
And auto flowers suck. Just fancy ditch weed. If you want a small lower yielding plant just don't veg long or flower clones off of a mother plant.