LET'S AGREE TO CALL THEM DAESH FROM NOW ON!!!

Daesh: The word ISIS doesn’t want you to say — and why politicians are using it more than ever
BY JASON SILVERSTEIN    NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Updated: Wednesday, November 18, 2015, 9:01 PM
 
Daesh: The Word ISIS Doesn’t Want You to Say
 
Want to drive a terrorist into a frenzy? Try calling him the D-word.
 
Western leaders — most recently French President Francois Hollande — have begun using a silly-sounding phonetic term for Islamic militants that apparently makes the madmen manic: Daesh.
 
President Obama used the word earlier this week in a speech at the G-20 summit in Turkey. In the past month, U.S. Secretary of State Kerry and French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius also dropped “Daesh” in speeches.
 
On Wednesday, Hollande slipped it into his address about raids on terrorists, saying “Daesh is guilty” of last week’s Paris massacre.
 
The terror group prefers to be known as the Islamic State, and is averse to any acronyms, especially one politicians are now using more often.
 
The group better known as ISIS, ISIL or the Islamic State reportedly hates “Daesh” so much that its brutes have threatened to cut out the tongue of anyone using it.
 
So what’s the deal with Daesh?
 
The world’s most feared terror group is already known by several names, which media and politicians use interchangeably. First, there’s the Islamic State, which seems to be the favorite name of the radicals themselves, because it legitimizes their apocalyptic ambition of a bloody Islamic regime. The Islamic State name is often used in the group’s propaganda videos.
 
Then there are two acronyms: ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and Syria) and ISIL (the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, referring to an area near the Mediterranean shore).
 
President Obama and French President Francois Hollande have recently used the term in prominent speeches.
But then comes Daesh (die-EESH). It is also an acronym, short for — take a deep breath — Dawlat al-Islamiyah f’al-Iraq w Belaad al-Sham, which is the full Arabic term for what English speakers translate as the Islamic State.
 
In other words, Daesh might as well be written as DAESH and understood the same way as the names ISIS or ISIL.
 
As Arabic translator Alice Guthrie explained in an exhaustive Free Word article this year, acronyms are rarely used at all in Arabic, so any acronym already sounds ridiculous to many Arabic speakers.
 
Worse yet, the acronym Daesh is nearly identical to the Arabic word “dais,” meaning something that crushes or tramples. That’s an ominous definition on its own, but not the one this self-aggrandizing group wants in its quest for Islamic rule.
 
But in the wake of the Paris massacre, the word now seems to be in its prime. With Obama, Hollande and other leaders using this verbal jab while holding the world’s attention, Daesh just might be the new ISIS. 
 
jsilverstein@nydailynews.com

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Eh, I understand that they find the word insulting, but there's something unsatisfying about using an obscure insult in a language I don't speak to get my contempt across.

That said, one of my cats is named Isis, so I don't like calling them ISIS because my cat is way better than those fuckers. Phone Post 3.0

They don't care about words. Their magazine makes it very clear they are not offended by anything. This whole daesh thing is retarded. It's just doublespeak from people who are afraid of associating the group with Islam.

They're ISIS. Let's drop this fantasy word game nonsense already.

No.
I speak English not Arabic.
If I want to insult them I'll do so in English. Phone Post 3.0

Stache - They don't care about words. Their magazine makes it very clear they are not offended by anything. This whole daesh thing is retarded. It's just doublespeak from people who are afraid of associating the group with Islam.

They're ISIS. Let's drop this fantasy word game nonsense already.

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I love how the Internet is rallying behind the pedantic notion that the one true threat to Islamic radicalism is the Arabic language's unfamiliarity with acronyms. You sure found their Achilles heel fellas. Checkmate Daesh.

Stache - They don't care about words. Their magazine makes it very clear they are not offended by anything. This whole daesh thing is retarded. It's just doublespeak from people who are afraid of associating the group with Islam.

They're ISIS. Let's drop this fantasy word game nonsense already.
This. Phone Post 3.0

Stache - They don't care about words. Their magazine makes it very clear they are not offended by anything. This whole daesh thing is retarded. It's just doublespeak from people who are afraid of associating the group with Islam.

They're ISIS. Let's drop this fantasy word game nonsense already.
This.

Rhetoric attempting to disassociate ISIS from Islam. Phone Post 3.0

Oh god. The enlightened one is here.

so let's piss them off even more.

Great idea.

I would counter that by not drawing a clear line between peaceful Muslims and radical Islam, you allow ISIS to control the narrative and define what it is to be Muslim.

We are not going to fool anyone by tiptoeing around the ideological ties to Islam. We need to paint them in such a light that young Muslims are forced to cross a very clear line when choosing to become radicalized.

I dont care what we call them. Lets just kill em all and send em to hell.

RKing85 - so let's piss them off even more.

Great idea.

That's actually the intent.

What ISIS/Daesh wants is the Muslim world united against the west/christian/infidel world. They've even brought Russia, China, and the US together. Seriously, who the fuck would ever wan to get Russia involved in a war? They knew full well taking out that jet would enrage them.

Daesh wants muslims to believe this is a huge culture war. That this is Jihad to protect Islam. Calling them Daesh is a great way to convey that ISIS doesn't give a fuck about Muslim, and just want to ruin and destroy everything.

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It's just an acronym to sound like the word for dog as an insult.

LFTM - 
Stache - They don't care about words. Their magazine makes it very clear they are not offended by anything. This whole daesh thing is retarded. It's just doublespeak from people who are afraid of associating the group with Islam.

They're ISIS. Let's drop this fantasy word game nonsense already.
This.

Rhetoric attempting to disassociate ISIS from Islam. Phone Post 3.0

I don't see how this is drawing a dissociation from Islam. Did you think since there's no I in the acronym DAESH that none of the letters stand for Islam?

To wins the hearts and minds of the next generation you are going to have to dissociate Islam from the radicals. We need every muslim in the world to spit on the ground when they hear the word DAESH. If you want to associate a real muslim with DAESH that's your opinion, but for harmony in the world we need muslims to believe these aren't real muslims and a blight on their religion.