Anyone have a link to it on the world wide web? 
Huningtonbbb - Anyone have a link to it on the world wide web? <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
This is where I watched it
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/index
Seekntruth -Huningtonbbb - Anyone have a link to it on the world wide web? <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
This is where I watched it
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/index
Thank ya
I don't think Zuffa came out looking bad at all...
lol @ Shamrock...
Just LMFAO@ that crap! That was such a non-story! Another fail for Gross!
Here's something they didn't air that made me LMFAO again:
http://youtu.be/Fbbs5nKXliU
ESPN paid their fighters a few hundred (example given was a 4 rd fight) when they gross like $2.8 billion last year (more than Zuffa;).
Cindy
CindyO - Just LMFAO@ that crap! That was such a non-story! Another fail for Gross!
Cindy
Agreed, lots of pomp and circumstance and zero meat.
Is there a bigger monopoly in sports than Espn? I think not....
NAAFS - Is there a bigger monopoly in sports than Espn? I think not....
It was a non-story until Zuffa released some of the unaired footage about ESPNs fight business, IMO=)
They too are in the business, make far more than Zuffa yet pay extremely less than Zuffa's least paid guy on the roster. How on earth do you point a finger when what you do is far worse?
Without knowing revenues it is ridiculous to try and quantify anyone is being underpaid.
You know, like when Zuffa looked up ESPN's records and learned they do like $2.8 billion per year yet paid their fighters a few hundred bucks to fight multiple round bouts? Yes... it was worth repeating, IMO.
A definite non-story until THAT, IMO. Dummies.
Cindy
CindyO -NAAFS - Is there a bigger monopoly in sports than Espn? I think not....
It was a non-story until Zuffa released some of the unaired footage about ESPNs fight business, IMO=)
They too are in the business, make far more than Zuffa yet pay extremely less than Zuffa's least paid guy on the roster. How on earth do you point a finger when what you do is far worse?
Without knowing revenues it is ridiculous to try and quantify anyone is being underpaid.
You know, like when Zuffa looked up ESPN's records and learned they do like $2.8 billion per year yet paid their fighters a few hundred bucks to fight multiple round bouts? Yes... it was worth repeating, IMO.
A definite non-story until THAT, IMO. Dummies.
Cindy
AFAIK, ESPN doesn't pay the fighter which compete in the events which they air. The promoter does, and the price is an agreement between the promoter and the fighter/figher's agent. ESPN doesn't control payments to the fighers.
ESPN pays the promoter for the rights to their product (details based on their agreement).
So, no, ESPN does not pay fighters extremely less than Zuffa.
Feel free to post evidence which proves me wrong.
CindyO -
ESPN paid their fighters a few hundred (example given was a 4 rd fight) when they gross like $2.8 billion last year (more than Zuffa;).
Cindy
Thanks for the useless and misleading talking point
Want to know how many boxers ESPN has on their payroll? Zero. ESPN is the broadcaster, not the fight promoter. That would be like saying that Fox, not the UFC, is responsible for the fighter pay problem.
Honest advice for your PR campaign: Make some concessions and get Lorenzo the hell away from the cameras because he has a tendency to softly state things that are so absurdly untrue that it undermines Dana's whole "here's the thing, you're an idiot fag so fuck you" aggro approach
cdmontgo -CindyO -NAAFS - Is there a bigger monopoly in sports than Espn? I think not....
It was a non-story until Zuffa released some of the unaired footage about ESPNs fight business, IMO=)
They too are in the business, make far more than Zuffa yet pay extremely less than Zuffa's least paid guy on the roster. How on earth do you point a finger when what you do is far worse?
Without knowing revenues it is ridiculous to try and quantify anyone is being underpaid.
You know, like when Zuffa looked up ESPN's records and learned they do like $2.8 billion per year yet paid their fighters a few hundred bucks to fight multiple round bouts? Yes... it was worth repeating, IMO.
A definite non-story until THAT, IMO. Dummies.
Cindy
AFAIK, ESPN doesn't pay the fighter which compete in the events which they air. The promoter does, and the price is an agreement between the promoter and the fighter/figher's agent. ESPN doesn't control payments to the fighers.
ESPN pays the promoter for the rights to their product (details based on their agreement).
So, no, ESPN does not pay fighters extremely less than Zuffa.
Feel free to post evidence which proves me wrong.
No, they don't "own" it, they promote it/advertise it for money.
IMO, SpikeTV was "in the fight business" just like Fox is now. ESPN is no different. LOL@ griping about what another company pays when they fights you're putting on pay 10 times less. If they support the low wages then why don't they start cleaning house at... well, you know... home?
Does that clear it up?
But this was a non-story anyway. ESPN was fine with Zuffa and supportive of the sport until Zuffa made the TV deal with Fox instead of them. Suddenly, they cancelled DWs schedukled appearances on the show, stopped giving the UFC the same amount of coverage, etc.
Sour grapes. ESPN and Josh Gross are a joke.
Cindy
LOL@ smoogy! Misleading my ass. They're in the fight business whether they want to be or not. No shit they don't "own" it. They shouldn't put their name on it if they didn't want to be associated with it then:)
If Macy's is putting their stamp on something they're selling to the public should no one have anything to say to them when its revealed the shoes they're pimping were made in a sweat-shop in another country by kids for peanuts? Would you accept, "Well, that's brand X, not us. Yeah, I guess we're giving them a platform to exploit those kids... but it's really not our problem?"
Was it Macy's that put the stamp on Affliction clothing until someone raised a stink about a fetal skeleton being on one of the designs so they immediately pulled them from the shelves and made sure the public knew they were "Aw, hell naw" about it?
Same thing here=) ESPN is pimping fights and making money off of low paid guys who put their blood and sweat into their craft only to be ripped off for peanuts (compared to what the UFC pays) ... ALL THE WHILE spending eight months and God knows how much $$$ in an effort to try and make the UFC look bad for paying THEIR fighters 10 x's what ESPN fighters make!
Why? Because the UFC went with the Fox deal INSTEAD of ESPN. Acting like jaded little bitches are ESPN and Gross=)
Cindy
Just watched it.... What the fuck Monte? Way to make the sport look bad. 
HeHitsMeBecauseHeLovesMe - Just watched it.... What the fuck Monte? Way to make the sport look bad. <img src="/images/phone/droid.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
he spoke the truth. might not be popular but he stuck up for the fighters. someone has to.
also link to the video:
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/378068/ESPN-investigates-UFC-fighter-pay/
i thought it was actually going to make the ufc look way worse than it did. i think it actually showed both sides.
Although i don't agree with the segment, espn's fighter pay isn't a good comparison. Maybe if the segment where about fox under paying fighters. Cindy, could you be anymore blatant about your overpowering bias? Don't look now but your shill is showing and everybody is looking at it.
Typical damage control from a multinational corporation when they lose rights to the fastest growing sport in the world to another one.
HeHitsMeBecauseHeLovesMe - Just watched it.... What the fuck Monte? Way to make the sport look bad.
LOL! He did not!
Cindy
HeHitsMeBecauseHeLovesMe - Although i don't agree with the segment, espn's fighter pay isn't a good comparison. Maybe if the segment where about fox under paying fighters. Cindy, could you be anymore blatant about your overpowering bias? Don't look now but your shill is showing and everybody is looking at it.
It should come as no surprise to anyone which side of the fence I'm on because I have always said that if you sign a contract, STFU and honor it. Duh!
Cindy
Damn. I always feel guilty when I'm a dick to you Cindy. I apologize, i was arguing in another thread and i brought it to that post, it was uncalled for and I'm sorry.