Eruption Results and play by play Ray Elbe Interview East Coast Grappling Championships A Moment of Truth
Thursday May 6, 2004
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Ray Elbe couldn't give a boring interview if he tried.
Massmma, with your screen name I feel like your long lost nephew or something.
ttt
massmma....i was just reading your "play by play" of Mark Colangelo's
fight. Come on..."Lee grabs one of Colangelo's kicks and begins
beating the crap out of him..." This review is a bit biased. This fight
was a solid fight with a 10 point must system as per the rules meeting
before the fight. Mark drops Lee 3x in the first round, and in the
second round Lee scores leg kicks. Lee is also deducted 1 point for
kicking Mark while he was on the ground, and not from a knock down.
I have watched video of this fight a few times and see it a bit differently
than you do. Reading your play by play, you make it like Mark got
worked. Mark knocked Lee down 3x and not by mere slippage. You
also say that Mark didn't want to deal with his hands? Come on. His
hands never phased Mark. It was Mark staying on the outside. Lee has
a huge reach on him.
No offense but the play by play is reading hella biased bro.
Lynn
Renzo Gracie Association/ECJJF
I don't see the review as bias, just how one guy saw the fight, just how you saw it a different way. Seeing as how Biggie is unaffiliated with either of the fighters I wouldn't see a reason for an unbias review.
TTT for the weekly news.
Chris....just my opinion. I read it and it just felt a bit biased that's all.
Just reading the "play by play" it sounds as if Mark wasn't in the game
and that he was being dominated completely by Lee which was far
from the case. Mark played a counter puncher game and that isn't
saying he was afraid to get in there with Lee. Everyone sees a fight
differently as well as an article differently. From my perspective
however, I felt as I said that this was a bit biased, that's all. You don't
have to be affiliated to be biased. If I was to write about someone that I
liked, I might be biased too. Obviously this is true or I would write this.
Lynn
Renzo Gracie Association/ECJJF
Lynn,
Great point regarding a different interpretation of the fight. I agree with you, the fight was in my opinion the fight of the night. Mark did look like he was well prepared for the bout, but I can also see how somebody with a different training background, or even a different seat might have seen the fight in a different light.
Though Mark put up a good battle, it did seem he may have been a bit worse for the wear after the fight. It seemed as though the leg kicks really took their toll on his quad.
Thanks for reading the article, and congratulations to your fighters for some impressive fights.
I guess that is the fight that drives me the craziest. It was a great night
and I am never one to come on here and argue a decision but this one
troubles me. All is over and at the end of the day, it was a great night
of fights but if leg kicks win a unanimous decision over 3 knockdowns
plus a point deduction, I guess I am a bit confused as to what the rules
meeting was about.
I am also a bit bummed by James stoppage with 15 seconds left in the
fight after such a hard fought battle, you don't stop it for that. He was
completely fine. Hey, that's what we are supposed to do, look after the
fighters that we represent and when we see things that we disagree
with, we are supposed to voice our opinions. We should just try to do it
respectfully.
Great write ups though! It's good to see some solid write ups after such
a great night of fights! I do love what you do with your site. It is
definitely one of the most informative out there. Keep up the good
work!
Lynn
Renzo Gracie Association/ECJJF
Thanks for the feedback Lynn.
The refs are getting better around here, but there's a little way to go before there will be no complaints from fighters, coaches and fans.
"clears throat"
I'll actually be seeing him this weekend. I'll see if he's still got it. Who are you and which fight was it?
Lynn,I'll be the first person to tell you that I'm biased in my reviews - I write my reviews as a fans of the sport; I'll never be able to be some unbiased robot that write for other sites. I'll mix in profanity, shit-talking, humor, and all that fun stuff in my articles. It upsets some people, but it also makes a ton of people read through my 10+ pages of fight descriptions.I do, however, try to remain fair, and I feel I was - I made more than one comment about Lee getting dropped on his ass.I personally stand by every post, comment, review, etc. I make - I have posted my contact info (including my phone number) on the MassMMA forum. (Click Here for that Post)Whether I piss someone off, or they become a fan - they're still reading my articles to see what I'll say; and that's what counts.
~Biggie
Biggie,
No reason to seem upset. As you say, you stand by your review which
is great. I applaud that. I don't think you should waver in your feelings
towards your writings or you wouldn't be a solid journalist, especially if
the feelings of one person vary from your own. With that said, I also
applaud you in acknowledging that your review is biased, it is rare for
someone to be able to admit that. I admit whole-heartedly that when I
post, there is a bias towards my writings. In this case however, I believe
my biasness is surpassed by what I saw in the ring that night and what
was said at the rules meeting.
I did enjoy your writing and fight descriptions, they were far better
than most of what is out there today. I may disagree with the
description of this fight, but that doesn't mean that I didn't enjoy the
reads. I don't see a need to call a writer based on a review or "play by
play" of a fight. That woud be quite a humorous phone call wouldn't
you think? How would it go?
*ring ring*
biggie: hello
lynn: hey, this is lynn from renzo's
biggie: what's up?
lynn: i just read your article and i disagree with your perspective
biggie: so
lynn: whatever
biggie: yeah whatever
lynn: see ya
biggie: see ya
*click click*
See how silly that might be.
Keep up the work.
Lynn
Renzo Gracie Association/ECJJF
After my fight:
Me: Biggie, you see that terrible flying leglock?
Biggie: You bet your ass I did, and Im gonna trash you for it.
In the write-up: "Mosquea gets to his feet. Mosquea tries a takedown from the clinch, Lauzon jumps for the flying heelhook and fails miserably;"
he doesnt pull punches on anyone....
LOL. so very true.
Chris "Biggie" Richard's Pre-Fight Review of
A Moment of Truth presented by Mario Ramos has been posted at www.massmma.com/fightnne-preview.htm
Joe...that's true.
Lynn
Renzo Gracie Association/ECJJF