Hi guys, we just had a Mendes brother here in oz and guys are raving about his hip framing to stop passing.
question... who taught these guys? I don’t ever remember reading who their teacher/s were? Thanks for enlightening me
Ramon Lemos
Thanks, was he a name? Champion? Were they with him when they were dominating? Sorry for my ignorance
RobGMAA -Hi guys, we just had a Mendes brother here in oz and guys are raving about his hip framing to stop passing.
question... who taught these guys? I don’t ever remember reading who their teacher/s were? Thanks for enlightening me
Hip frame to stop the pass, do tell
^ not entirely sure just heard from a lot of guys that went to the seminar.
they said because passing now is more standing dynamic and acrobatic, framing with arms is not effective (like it is for low pressure passing) so they frame with hips.
no idea how that works but will try to find out
Ramon Lemos and Andre Galvao started Atos, after Brasa broke up. All Alliance old school guys. Lemos is a bad ass.
The Closed Guard -RobGMAA -Hi guys, we just had a Mendes brother here in oz and guys are raving about his hip framing to stop passing.
question... who taught these guys? I don’t ever remember reading who their teacher/s were? Thanks for enlightening me
Hip frame to stop the pass, do tell
The idea is that you don't want your hips to turn away from the passer as they are moving around your guard. If you frame under your opposide side hip, they can't turn your hips away from you, so you can pummel your leg back in and recover your guard. This is actually super basic stuff, but it seems that people don't know this technique. If you watch Keenan, Espen, Miyaos and guys like that, you will see they frame under their own leg/hip to defend the pass. This is one of those basic techniques that everyone that trains with a top competitor will probably know by blue belt.
Jon Thomas has a video on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDB13GVZchI
I think its in there somewhere.
RobGMAA -^ not entirely sure just heard from a lot of guys that went to the seminar.
they said because passing now is more standing dynamic and acrobatic, framing with arms is not effective (like it is for low pressure passing) so they frame with hips.
no idea how that works but will try to find out
Yeah, Lamos doesn't have much of a name, but from what I gather he was really good, and obviously a great teacher. Galvao, I think, also had a big influence on them, as well as Calasans and Frazatto. A lot of these guys came from the old TT academy and there is a lot of terere influence there. I think the Mendes Bros may have actually started out there or spent some time there.
Carlos Lemos is actually a nova uniao linaeage guy. I believe the guys got their blue belt from Robson Moura.
Their game is much more influenced from Bruno Frazatto than Ramon. Ramon was with them when they were kids.
Muffinho -The Closed Guard -RobGMAA -Hi guys, we just had a Mendes brother here in oz and guys are raving about his hip framing to stop passing.
question... who taught these guys? I don’t ever remember reading who their teacher/s were? Thanks for enlightening me
Hip frame to stop the pass, do tell
The idea is that you don't want your hips to turn away from the passer as they are moving around your guard. If you frame under your opposide side hip, they can't turn your hips away from you, so you can pummel your leg back in and recover your guard. This is actually super basic stuff, but it seems that people don't know this technique. If you watch Keenan, Espen, Miyaos and guys like that, you will see they frame under their own leg/hip to defend the pass. This is one of those basic techniques that everyone that trains with a top competitor will probably know by blue belt.
Jon Thomas has a video on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDB13GVZchI
I think its in there somewhere.
At 2.05 in that video.
Muffinho -The Closed Guard -RobGMAA -Hi guys, we just had a Mendes brother here in oz and guys are raving about his hip framing to stop passing.
question... who taught these guys? I don’t ever remember reading who their teacher/s were? Thanks for enlightening me
Hip frame to stop the pass, do tell
The idea is that you don't want your hips to turn away from the passer as they are moving around your guard. If you frame under your opposide side hip, they can't turn your hips away from you, so you can pummel your leg back in and recover your guard. This is actually super basic stuff, but it seems that people don't know this technique. If you watch Keenan, Espen, Miyaos and guys like that, you will see they frame under their own leg/hip to defend the pass. This is one of those basic techniques that everyone that trains with a top competitor will probably know by blue belt.
Jon Thomas has a video on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDB13GVZchI
I think its in there somewhere.
Thanks man!
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bp5GemXgwok/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=19f5lwfwcl8nx
https://www.instagram.com/p/BppVDduAFlm/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=2zj9uacrahj1
More links on the hip framing from Rafa.
dustyaguas -https://www.instagram.com/p/Bp5GemXgwok/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=19f5lwfwcl8nx
https://www.instagram.com/p/BppVDduAFlm/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=2zj9uacrahj1
More links on the hip framing from Rafa.
mind blown
also, like someone else mentioned, i think that bruno frazzato deserves a lot of credit for their development. he’s one of the most underrated guys out there IMO
Red Stuff -Muffinho -The Closed Guard -RobGMAA -Hi guys, we just had a Mendes brother here in oz and guys are raving about his hip framing to stop passing.
question... who taught these guys? I don’t ever remember reading who their teacher/s were? Thanks for enlightening me
Hip frame to stop the pass, do tell
The idea is that you don't want your hips to turn away from the passer as they are moving around your guard. If you frame under your opposide side hip, they can't turn your hips away from you, so you can pummel your leg back in and recover your guard. This is actually super basic stuff, but it seems that people don't know this technique. If you watch Keenan, Espen, Miyaos and guys like that, you will see they frame under their own leg/hip to defend the pass. This is one of those basic techniques that everyone that trains with a top competitor will probably know by blue belt.
Jon Thomas has a video on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDB13GVZchI
I think its in there somewhere.
At 2.05 in that video.
nice vid.. Another great details is at 6:20 not discussing protection on the near side during knee cuts...
Exactly what my mere 380 view video has been saying...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yK0RTDXTrU
One of the things that helped make the Mendes Bros the grapplers they are is the fact that they basically trained with every top team as they were coming up. They spent time with Nova Uniao when they were young, then spent some time with TT when TT was at the top, and then went over to Brasa before Brasa broke into Checkmat and Atos.
Muffinho -One of the things that helped make the Mendes Bros the grapplers they are is the fact that they basically trained with every top team as they were coming up. They spent time with Nova Uniao when they were young, then spent some time with TT when TT was at the top, and then went over to Brasa before Brasa broke into Checkmat and Atos.
i think the biggest thing though is that they are brothers who are both ELITE grapplers. they have probably drilled shit together more than any other pair of grapplers ever.
Muffinho -One of the things that helped make the Mendes Bros the grapplers they are is the fact that they basically trained with every top team as they were coming up. They spent time with Nova Uniao when they were young, then spent some time with TT when TT was at the top, and then went over to Brasa before Brasa broke into Checkmat and Atos.
I’d disagree. From what I understand, 99% of their training has been with Ramon Lemos in Santa Clara. It’s he who switched associations, from Nova Unaio to TT, to Brasa, to Atos. I’m sure they got the opportunity to train with the top guys from those teams, but it’s not like they hopped from team to team.
James
Sir Taps -Muffinho -One of the things that helped make the Mendes Bros the grapplers they are is the fact that they basically trained with every top team as they were coming up. They spent time with Nova Uniao when they were young, then spent some time with TT when TT was at the top, and then went over to Brasa before Brasa broke into Checkmat and Atos.
I’d disagree. From what I understand, 99% of their training has been with Ramon Lemos in Santa Clara. It’s he who switched associations, from Nova Unaio to TT, to Brasa, to Atos. I’m sure they got the opportunity to train with the top guys from those teams, but it’s not like they hopped from team to team.
James
I didn’t mean they hopped teams, but Ramon moved affiliations and they trained regularly with all of those teams. I think Cobrinha even rolled with them when they were purple belts lol
tapnaporsnapbro -Muffinho -One of the things that helped make the Mendes Bros the grapplers they are is the fact that they basically trained with every top team as they were coming up. They spent time with Nova Uniao when they were young, then spent some time with TT when TT was at the top, and then went over to Brasa before Brasa broke into Checkmat and Atos.
i think the biggest thing though is that they are brothers who are both ELITE grapplers. they have probably drilled shit together more than any other pair of grapplers ever.
Except the miyao’s though.