Co promotion would mean equal revenue to what ufc makes. That would be North of 260 million
WuTangDan -Co promotion would mean equal revenue to what ufc makes. That would be North of 260 million
Whatever the number is, it was ridiculous for M1 to ask for it
They ruined a huge fight in MMA history for their own selfish gain
pidgey -Yes Brock would have been heavily favored, then again he was heavily on the juice, unlike Fedor.
And you never know, with Brock being afraid of being punched in the face, Fedor could have Zulu’ed him with a quick combo at any moment.
Another delusional comment by a typical fedor nuthugger.
Brock Lesnar is not Zulu. He's gonna look to take fedor down immediately. This is not rocket science.
Fedor got ragdolled by Arona, Bigfoot, Coleman, Randleman, and taken down by 2006 no grappling Mark Hunt, and had to grab the ropes/cage to stop middleweights lindland/hendo's takedown.
Lesnar will have no problem taking Fedor down.
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much -Nytron -Aka it's Dana's fault then.
They did copromotion with Mayweather and Showtime.
Huge mistake, one of the biggest what ifs in MMA. All because of Dana's ego.
boxing fight vs MMA when UFC had huge market share in USA, you never do co-promotion in your sport when you have that marketshare. Thats like NFL doing one with XFL, just be idiotic.
These fedor fanatics are a special kind of retarded.
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much -StrikingMMA - Fedor would have destroyed Lesnar. Lesnar was too green for somebody at Fedor's level. Look what Carwin did to Lesnar before he gassed. Fedor would have sealed the deal.pull Fedors dick out of your mouth long enough to think this was around time Brock beat Mir and Carwin and Fedor almost lost to Brett Rogers. Brock gets TD, lands in side control, pounds on Fedor, fight ends.
Carwin had TDD, Fedor not so much, For god sakes BigFoot took him down at will.
These Fedor nuthuggers are a special type of stupid and delusion.
Fedor got taken down by light heavyweight Arona, Coleman, Randleman, middleweight lindland, middleweight hendo (fedor cheated to stop the takedown so they count), Bigfoot, 2006 zero grappling Mark Hunt, middleweight Sonnen (even though that fight looked fake and fixed as fuck).
Lesnar would have ragdolled fedor like he was a featherweight lmao.
Fedor knew he wasn’t able to beat the best after 2005, he ducked the UFC several times.
Nytron -Aka it's Dana's fault then.
They did copromotion with Mayweather and Showtime.
Huge mistake, one of the biggest what ifs in MMA. All because of Dana's ego.
Dana should have given team fedor half of the company's profits for a single figher who turned out to be the most overrated fighter in the history of the sport? lmao.
Dana dodged a bullet on this one. Thank GOD he didn't get scammed by M1 Bullshit.
oranos -Fedor didn't want Vadim Jewfenshtein taking 85% of the "millions and millions"
Fedor could have just told vadim to go fuck himself and sign with the UFC anyway.
Just like Mouasi did. Fedor is just as guilty as his management team.
THP -Yep and Fedor was too arrogant to take it. There was so much arrogance on all sides back then. Japan couldn't accept that they were squeezed out of the market and Fedor bet too high on himself.
Where is M-1 now?
Fortunately Fedor lives a humble life where the money doesn't matter. But he would've beat the shit out of UFC heavy at that time.
Fedor was too arrogant
But he would have gotten beat by lesnar.
Look how Rogers came close to TKOing Fedor lmao. You think Lesnar wouldn't have done 100x worse?
The Immortal One -Nytron -Aka it's Dana's fault then.
They did copromotion with Mayweather and Showtime.
Huge mistake, one of the biggest what ifs in MMA. All because of Dana's ego.
Dana should have given team fedor half of the company's profits for a single figher who turned out to be the most overrated fighter in the history of the sport? lmao.
Dana dodged a bullet on this one. Thank GOD he didn't get scammed by M1 Bullshit.
It's one event.
Is Dana paying Mayweather and Showtiime half his profits in perpetuity? No
Bottom line is, if the Fertittas inserted a Scott Coker into that situation and benched Dana, he would have gotten that deal done. It would have been a win-win for all parties involved. Once the show wraps, all parties go their seperate ways.
Nytron -The Immortal One -Nytron -Aka it's Dana's fault then.
They did copromotion with Mayweather and Showtime.
Huge mistake, one of the biggest what ifs in MMA. All because of Dana's ego.
Dana should have given team fedor half of the company's profits for a single figher who turned out to be the most overrated fighter in the history of the sport? lmao.
Dana dodged a bullet on this one. Thank GOD he didn't get scammed by M1 Bullshit.
It's one event.
Is Dana paying Mayweather and Showtiime half his profits in perpetuity? No
Bottom line is, if the Fertittas inserted a Scott Coker into that situation and benched Dana, he would have gotten that deal done. It would have been a win-win for all parties involved. Once the show wraps, all parties go their seperate ways.
You are a whole nother level of Fedor Fanatic that I have not seen before lmao.
So let's say UFC makes 110 million for Fedor vs Lesnar, including the live gate. You're saying that they have to give 55 million to M1 Global for one fight.
Let me repeat that again. 55 million has to be given away, for one fighter, for one fight, for one night.
Mayweather and Showtime was a completely different situation. That was a boxing fight. Dana white is an MMA promoter, NOT a boxing promoter. So Showtime and Mayweather Entertainment brings ALL of the promotion and the work they do to the table, the work they have been doing for YEARS.
WHAT THE FUCK DOES M1 GLOBAL BRING TO THE TABLE??
please stop.
OP, did Fedor impregnate your sister or something, your obsession of Fedor exceeds that of even the most devote Trump, Obama and Hillary Clinton haters?
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Nytron -Aka it's Dana's fault then.
They did copromotion with Mayweather and Showtime.
Huge mistake, one of the biggest what ifs in MMA. All because of Dana's ego.
LOL
They did co-promotion with Mayweather and Showtime because they had a history of selling millions of PPVs and making hundreds of millions of dollars at the box office.
M-1 brought NOTHING to the table. They were a rinky-dink regional promotion from Russia that had no track record in the American market. The ONLY thing they had of value was Fedor himself, and Fedor had no established track record as a box office draw on PPV. And when he did did establish a track record as a PPV draw with Affliction, the returns were modest at best (100K buys) and certainly not in the same universe as what Mayweather/Showtime regularly delivered.
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The Immortal One -oranos -Fedor didn't want Vadim Jewfenshtein taking 85% of the "millions and millions"
Fedor could have just told vadim to go fuck himself and sign with the UFC anyway.
Just like Mouasi did. Fedor is just as guilty as his management team.
Agreed.
Fedor was either too trusting or too stupid to realize that Finklestein was trying to build M-1’s brand at his expense. He should have told Finklestein to hit the bricks and hired himself a contract attorney without any conflicts of interest to negotiate with Zuffa on his behalf at at a flat rate.
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Steve4192 -Nytron -Aka it's Dana's fault then.
They did copromotion with Mayweather and Showtime.
Huge mistake, one of the biggest what ifs in MMA. All because of Dana's ego.
LOL
They did co-promotion with Mayweather and Showtime because they had a history of selling millions of PPVs and making hundreds of millions of dollars at the box office.
M-1 brought NOTHING to the table. They were a rinky-dink regional promotion from Russia that had no track record in the American market. The ONLY thing they had of value was Fedor himself, and Fedor had no established track record as a box office draw on PPV. And when he did did establish a track record as a PPV draw with Affliction, the returns were modest at best (100K buys) and certainly not in the same universe as what Mayweather/Showtime regularly delivered.
Yup. There is no comparing Mayweather the highest earner in boxing/MMA ever vs. Fedor.
Mayweather steps in the ring and it instantly generate 10’s of millions of dollars. Fedor steps into the ring and organizations shut down.
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Again the typical stupid OGers shitting over Fedor.
S ty le make fights, and even as a huge Fedor fan I think Brock would have won. But not “because Fedor sucks and was overrated” all that BS. Just that Brock could inflict impressive damage with G’n’P “rabbit punches”, letting no space for a sub by the bottom guy, and yes Fedor could be taken down.
WTF at this site banning words such as s t y l e and c l a s s i c
I think BLAF handled this poorly, he let his ego get in the way.
Tim Duncan -I think BLAF handled this poorly, he let his ego get in the way.
Possibly, but IIRC, it wasn’t just BLAF who tried to sign him. Lorenzo also took a crack at it thinking, as you do, that maybe Vadim/Fedor would respond better to someone more diplomatic at the negotiating table.
It didn’t work.
Vadim wasn’t there to negotiate and meet somewhere in the middle. He was there to issue co-promotion demands and accept nothing less than unconditional surrender from Zuffa. No matter how much they upped the ante monetarily, he wouldn’t budge on co-promotion. He misjudged Zuffa’s willingness to stand up walk away. He mistook their WANT to sign Fedor with a NEED to sign Fedor. They wanted Fedor something fierce, but they didn’t need him. They were making money hand-over-fist without him.
Steve4192 -The Immortal One -oranos -Fedor didn't want Vadim Jewfenshtein taking 85% of the "millions and millions"
Fedor could have just told vadim to go fuck himself and sign with the UFC anyway.
Just like Mouasi did. Fedor is just as guilty as his management team.
Agreed.
Fedor was either too trusting or too stupid to realize that Finklestein was trying to build M-1’s brand at his expense. He should have told Finklestein to hit the bricks and hired himself a contract attorney without any conflicts of interest to negotiate with Zuffa on his behalf at at a flat rate.
Exactly.
I honestly think Fedor used Vadim as an excuse to extend his win streak and protect his stock as much as possible without having to face UFC guys.
But Im sure Vadim also convinced him that he was gonna make more money by keeping away from the UFC.
Either way, if Fedor really wanted to fight in the UFC, he could have and would have IMO.
quality -Steve4192 -Nytron -Aka it's Dana's fault then.
They did copromotion with Mayweather and Showtime.
Huge mistake, one of the biggest what ifs in MMA. All because of Dana's ego.
LOL
They did co-promotion with Mayweather and Showtime because they had a history of selling millions of PPVs and making hundreds of millions of dollars at the box office.
M-1 brought NOTHING to the table. They were a rinky-dink regional promotion from Russia that had no track record in the American market. The ONLY thing they had of value was Fedor himself, and Fedor had no established track record as a box office draw on PPV. And when he did did establish a track record as a PPV draw with Affliction, the returns were modest at best (100K buys) and certainly not in the same universe as what Mayweather/Showtime regularly delivered.
Yup. There is no comparing Mayweather the highest earner in boxing/MMA ever vs. Fedor.
Mayweather steps in the ring and it instantly generate 10’s of millions of dollars. Fedor steps into the ring and organizations shut down.
Fedor fanatics are delusional at the highest level.
Fedor. Fedor is arguably the greatest mma fighter of all-time. Brock was a great athlete and a giant guy, but was also more than a bit of a front runner and he turtled up and turned away every time that he got hit. Unlike Brock, Fedor had the heart of lion and had far more way to win this matchup than Brock did.
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