I've been grappling for over 20 years. Sometimes you accidentally end up in strange postions and are able to pull off really cool subs from those really strange positions.
Nog fell into the wrong position at the wrong time, he put himself into that position. If you ask me Nog looked awesome up to getting caught. He had Frank completely rocked. I thought he was going to finish him. Then BAM!
Don't get me wrong, Mir has ridiculous BJJ. I'm just saying, he got a little bit of a gift tonight.
Mir had a great overall performance but his stand up looked like absolute shit.
Agree!
If Big Nog just pounded him out instead of jumping to the guillotine ... sigh!
Nog made a HUGE mistake in not continuing the GnP. Mir was done then he went for a guillotine. Really disappointing loss.
I agree. But much respect to Mir for being rocked and still pulling off another hail mary sub.
I for one still believe that Nog is the better fighter.
Another thing that surprised me is Mir hasn't evolved his stand up.
He still tried throwing that same left straight-right uppercut combo and Nog saw it coming and ducked under.
I know his stand up looked sloppy but Mir has a better stand up game then most heavyweights. He just got caught by a Minotauro who has been working quite a lot on his boxing game. I thoughtat first Mir may have got the win with luck, but rewatching the fight Mir was right on what he said in the post-fight presser, anyone one in the same situation Big Nog was in including himself would have done everything Nog did to defend. Nog was the 2nd guy to learn to tap when Mir has your arm locked up.
I won't say it was lucky but yeah I agree Nog shouldn't have gone for the sub there. If he kept with GnP I don't think we'd be having this conversation.
You know I think a lot of people were thinking what you said. You just put it into words.
I feel real bad for nog tonight.
One positive thing about Mir is. He is dangerous. But Nog is the better fighter. Huge rookie mistake by not finishing standing. His ego got the better of him and he probably said to himself " i will finsih Mir with a submission'.
Nog should have been in there to win and not show off.
Nothing lucky about that transition. I seen ricky lundel do that a long with gordo, and his student celcinho.
zaqson - Referee confused Nog telling him not to punch to the back of the head so he went for sub imo.Mir got luck anyway.
Yep, I saw and heard that and noticed that it did confuse him.
How was it a strange position? it was a kimura from side control a common sub from a common position.
explain please.
Luck is the meeting of opportunity and preparation.
Pretty much every fight is lost because someone made a mistake. Unfortunately Nog made "mistakes" both times he fought Mir. 1st to knock him out and the 1st to submit him. Mir is just better...it is what it is. Sorry, but it was more than luck.
Yup, agreed. If Mir fought Nog 98 more times, Mir would get lucky all 98. Guy's just born lucky I guess, don't know why he even bothers training.
For Pete's sakes people, let it go. Nog is a living legend and an MMA hero. I've cheered him his entire career, Mir is just the better fighter, proof's in the pudding.
How many times does he have to beat him to be the better fighter?
Mir 2-0 against nog and still gets no credit...
First to KO Nog and it was luck first to beat him by submission and its luck. If they fought 100 times would Mir win every one hell no but apparently he would win atleast 2...
Ya because Mir took the fight with no intentions of winning and subbing someone was never a consideration. 