My alternate take on the Silva KO

SubbedZER0 - 


We were just discussing in the boxing thread some of the work in Anderson's 'Boxing for MMA' DVD sparring session @ Wildcard.



Nobody was a fan of the way the guy he sparred with, although he didn't put the stamp on Anderson by any means, was able to place Anderson where he wanted him and freeze him a couple times with set up punches/angles for the big one that he wanted.



I'm no expert but it looked like the backhanded flipjab there thrown by Weidman before the final left hook, froze him off. Anderson had taken his angle and was on his way out the other side, but his attention was with the jab and the final left was totally blind.



I'm not sure but I think I just agreed while saying it in a considerably less intellegent fashion.



You make a good point that I forgot to address. That backfist froze AS at an angle that was too far to his left to completely avoid the left hook. Couple that with the fact that Chris closed the distance on the backfist means that AS had to try slipping the hook while moving towards it without being able to move back again. He basically walked right into thanks to the backfist.

I agree that the extra backfist was the gamechanger.

It's almost as if Anderson had to use the last distance of his "lean back" to dodge that, and then Silva had no where left to go when when the left hook came in. He simply couldn't lean any further back.

Read "killing the king" by Jack something here on the UG.

He pointed out that doubling up would do the trick. It did. Give it a read as he explains it better than I ever could. Phone Post 3.0

OP, do you think this fight was Fixed, meaning AS was asked to lose?


I got into a heated argument last night after the fight with a dude that said he was fighter 15-0, I knew he was full of shit, but he kept insisting the fight was fixed...it was a funny/heated argument.

Good analysis.You might find this interesting:

Jack Slack called it!!!

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum_framed.posts&forum=1&thread=2197383&page=1&pc=23

VU Phone Post 3.0

Matt A Tat Tat On Dat Azz - OP, do you think this fight was Fixed, meaning AS was asked to lose?


I got into a heated argument last night after the fight with a dude that said he was fighter 15-0, I knew he was full of shit, but he kept insisting the fight was fixed...it was a funny/heated argument.


I dont think it was fixed. That guy is also lying.



 



There was far more money to be made by Silva winning and then doing superfights. Weidman wont sell nearly as many PPV buys as Silva does either. UFC knows that Silva is close to retiring and Weidman can win the belt once he's done.

Weidman also does a nice job of regaining his balance before the left that dropped Anderson, so that punch had power. The backfist occupied Anderson and gave Chris that extra instant to get re-balanced.

yabadaba - 


Good analysis.You might find this interesting:



Jack Slack called it!!!



http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum_framed.posts&forum=1&thread=2197383&page=1&pc=23



Wow, good call.

Didn't read but vote up for the short clip Phone Post 3.0

Two things I think everyone misses:

1) Anderson keeps his hands at his hips to help stuff takedowns. It's not taunting simply to disrespect, he's not retarded.... he counts on his counter striking effectiveness and insane reflexes and head movement.

2) Anderson plays it off as if these shots don't hurt. They do. Even against Maia he got hit with a big shot that changed the fight. He stopped joking and was on his bike for two rounds (he was gassed as well).

His lights went out because he's human. The shots in the first round hurt him too. If Anderson fights Weidman with a high guard he will get taken down and worked over bad. He needs to find another way to adjust.

Good points OP, VU.

I was thinking Anderson knew he was in trouble if Weidman was able to land more takedowns. He was trying to bruise his ego enough to make him strike and got stupid. Phone Post

number 4.. We get taught that in muay thai and even if it doesnt land, it distracts just long enough to throw a left hook.

Shocking that it worked on anderson.

I should also add Nader,

I hear alot that bending at the waist for a lean like that is no good. You want to be bending the legs and turning the shoulders/body IMO. It looked like Anderson took the shot off balance, and even worse it really looked like he hit him while Anderson was 'limp necked' so to speak.

UK Asylum - number 4.. We get taught that in muay thai and even if it doesnt land, it distracts just long enough to throw a left hook.

Shocking that it worked on anderson.
I like to teach it as a way of hiding the straight right coming after it. Same theory I guess. Phone Post 3.0

SubbedZER0 - 


I should also add Nader,



I hear alot that bending at the waist for a lean like that is no good. You want to be bending the legs and turning the shoulders/body IMO. It looked like Anderson took the shot off balance, and even worse it really looked like he hit him while Anderson was 'limp necked' so to speak.


Thats an understatement, theres no way he wasnt off balance.

If me or you lent that far back we would probally fall over.

SubbedZER0 -


I should also add Nader,



I hear alot that bending at the waist for a lean like that is no good. You want to be bending the legs and turning the shoulders/body IMO. It looked like Anderson took the shot off balance, and even worse it really looked like he hit him while Anderson was 'limp necked' so to speak.

We actually just worked on this at the gym the other day, leaning back with the legs rather than at the waist. The biggest reason is so once u slip a punch you're ready immediately to fire a punch or kick without having to first regain your balance and retransfer weight to load up Phone Post 3.0


The secret is the distracting backfist.

I'd also like to contribute that I think the 2nd left hook, the one that caught him while he was mock stanky legging the first left, actually hurt him a little. I don't think he expected and absorbed that one well either. Phone Post 3.0