NAME 9 HW's ahead of the Reem? Dana supporters.

Just do it, name these mother fuckers... Becasue I hear a lot of Reem hate and how he's not a top 10, So name 9 legit Hw's ahead of him?

i think he is top 10 but until he fights a fedor, or verdum i wont rank him in the top 5, the heavyweight division is not that stacked so its hard not to put him in the top 10

Wow, the 10ers are out in force here.

^^^ what he said Phone Post

nobones -  Easy 10er.  Let an ol skool guy learn you:

- Noguiera: Only person to hold Pride and UFC HW titles...
 


This is where I stopped reading...


So, I assume you are NOT basing your list on who you think would (hypothetically) beat who, if they fought.


Ok.

nobones -  Like I said you are rating him on pure potential not actual accomplishments.  Rankings are primarily based on actual accomplishments.


This. Are there 10 HW who would be favored to beat him? No, but that's speculative and not relevant to rankings.

In terms of actual MMA wins and losses (the relevant criteria for rankings), he's toward the bottom of the Top 10 at best.

hector lombard should be ranked #1 in the MW rankings for beating cans if overeem is a top 5 HW.

Chris Condo,Julian Sanchez,Teila Tuli,Harry Moskowitz,
3D Graham,Moti Horenstein,James Toney,Bobby Hoffman
and Werdum. Shall i go on?

Valesquez - maybe
JDS- maybe
Carwin - maybe if he works on his cardio
Lesnar - no chance, can't take a hit
Fedor - would be epic
Nelson - more of a chance than Lesnar
Allister has become a wrecking machine, I think a lot of people are still judging him based off of his 205 performance. Phone Post

role model - Valesquez, JDS, Carwin, Lesnar, Fedor, Nelson. There's 6 for ya. <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>



Carwin, Lesnar and Nelson? LOL

Nelson got TOOLED by JDS, Overeem is a better striker than JDS.
Carwin would gas after getting tooled on the feet(Gonzaga rocked him, Overeem would destroy him)
Lesnar? LOL the 5-2 record coupled with a guy who's scared of getting hit.
He would probably beat JDS too, JDS's strength is Overeems strength and Overeems better at it.

Fedor and Cain are very good match ups that could go either way.

role model - Nelson

LMAO!

 Reem has never beaten a top 10 HW.



HOw can you rank him in the top 10?

He just won the Dream hw "title" over Duffee on a weeks notice who was coming off a KO loss.



Are you reem nut huggers fucking kidding?

until Reem PROVES it, you're just speculating.


piratepirate -  Reem has never beaten a top 10 HW.

HOw can you rank him in the top 10?
He just won the Dream hw "title" over Duffee on a weeks notice who was coming off a KO loss.

Are you reem nut huggers fucking kidding?
until Reem PROVES it, you're just speculating.



Which top 10 has Jon Jones beat? People are putting him in the top 10. What about JDS? who has he beat to be in the top 10? Cain has only beaten Lesnar(who is a complete joke of a fighter once he gets hit) and a shell of Nog. Overeem is a beast and definitely deserves to be top 10. His striking is unmatched at heavyweight and he has good ground game as well.

 Cain = Wins over Brock, Kongo, Nog, Rothwell

Brock = Carwin, Mir, Couture

Werdum = Bigfoot, Fedor, Vera, GG

Fedor = I don't have to explain why he is ranked over reem

JDS = WErdum, Struve, GG, Big Country

Carwin = Mir and GG

Frank Mir = Kongo, Nog, Brock

Big Nog = Sylvia, Couture, HH, Barnett, Werdum

Barnett = Yvel, Rizzo, Monson, Aleks, Nog



I think you could argue all of those guys over Reem.

Now, not all those wins are over top 10 guys, but those wins are all credible solid wins.



Reem has beaten who?

Duffee coming off a KO loss,

Rogers coming off a KO loss,

Fujita coming off two fucking losses,

James Thompson coming off 4 fucking losses in a row!,

Tony Sylvester (actually coming off a fucking win)

Gary Goodridge coming off 3 losses in a row,

CC No Contest for insane nut shots,

Hunt coming off 2 losses in a row,

Lee ( who was 1 - 1 and his 3rd fucking fight),



You see where this is going.

How is ANY of that argueable for a top 10 slot?

Let alone a top 5 spot.

In his last 9 fucking fights he fought 2 people coming off wins,

and one it was the guys 3rd pro fight. Jesus.




Rogers has zero wrestling.

Reem didn't even need a underhook to hold Rogers down.

Carwin would also smash Rogers within a round.

fastrack - 
piratepirate -  Reem has never beaten a top 10 HW.



HOw can you rank him in the top 10?

He just won the Dream hw "title" over Duffee on a weeks notice who was coming off a KO loss.



Are you reem nut huggers fucking kidding?

until Reem PROVES it, you're just speculating.







he beat rogers who was top ten at the time, and who is basically a copy of carwin with similar record, worse wrestling but better cardio
Right, he was "SF HW Champ" and "defended" his title by beating a guy coming off a KO loss.

If Fedor / Brock / Anybody else was doing this shit you guys would be tearing them apart.


MMApostle - 
piratepirate -  Reem has never beaten a top 10 HW.



HOw can you rank him in the top 10?

He just won the Dream hw "title" over Duffee on a weeks notice who was coming off a KO loss.



Are you reem nut huggers fucking kidding?

until Reem PROVES it, you're just speculating.







Which top 10 has Jon Jones beat? People are putting him in the top 10. What about JDS? who has he beat to be in the top 10? Cain has only beaten Lesnar(who is a complete joke of a fighter once he gets hit) and a shell of Nog. Overeem is a beast and definitely deserves to be top 10. His striking is unmatched at heavyweight and he has good ground game as well.



 

Reem has beaten who?

Duffee coming off a KO loss,

Rogers coming off a KO loss,

Fujita coming off two fucking losses,

James Thompson coming off 4 fucking losses in a row!,

Tony Sylvester (actually coming off a fucking win)

Gary Goodridge coming off 3 losses in a row,

CC No Contest for insane nut shots,

Hunt coming off 2 losses in a row,

Lee ( who was 1 - 1 and his 3rd fucking fight),



You see where this is going.

How is ANY of that argueable for a top 10 slot?

Let alone a top 5 spot.

In his last 9 fucking fights he fought 2 people coming off wins,

and one it was the guys 3rd pro fight. Jesus.

sluggo92 - ive got a better question for those who dont wanna see overeem beat their favorite HW's, WHO IN THE UFC CAN BEAT HIM? ill be honest i dont see anyone in the ufc HW beating him besides Cain, and anyone that thinks werdum would beat him, i feel sorry for them.


 The guy won't even fight guys coming off wins.



I agree the Reem has hands, but come on, he needs to PROVE himself.


piratepirate -  Cain = Wins over Brock, Kongo, Nog, Rothwell
Brock = Carwin, Mir, Couture
Werdum = Bigfoot, Fedor, Vera, GG
Fedor = I don't have to explain why he is ranked over reem
JDS = WErdum, Struve, GG, Big Country
Carwin = Mir and GG
Frank Mir = Kongo, Nog, Brock
Big Nog = Sylvia, Couture, HH, Barnett, Werdum
Barnett = Yvel, Rizzo, Monson, Aleks, Nog

I think you could argue all of those guys over Reem.
Now, not all those wins are over top 10 guys, but those wins are all credible solid wins.

Reem has beaten who?
Duffee coming off a KO loss,
Rogers coming off a KO loss,
Fujita coming off two fucking losses,
James Thompson coming off 4 fucking losses in a row!,
Tony Sylvester (actually coming off a fucking win)
Gary Goodridge coming off 3 losses in a row,
CC No Contest for insane nut shots,
Hunt coming off 2 losses in a row,
Lee ( who was 1 - 1 and his 3rd fucking fight),

You see where this is going.
How is ANY of that argueable for a top 10 slot?
Let alone a top 5 spot.
In his last 9 fucking fights he fought 2 people coming off wins,
and one it was the guys 3rd pro fight. Jesus.




Now throw a K-1 world grand prix title in there against THE BEST kick boxers in the world. Throw in how hes finished 9/10 last fights, throw in how bad he was tooling cro cop before the nut shot. It's the skills he has that put him in the top 10. He's not only beating his opponents, hes wrecking them in 2 different sports. He finished Todd Duffee in 19 seconds..the man who holds the fasted knockout in UFC history. Using old wins to throw people in the top 10 is useless. Its right now that matters and if you can't see that Overeem would tool Barnett, Nog, Mir, Brock and have damn good fights against Fedor, Werdum, Cain and JDS then you are blind. He hasn't lost in 10 fights...Nog just got knocked out, Brock got exposed badly, Fedor lost to a guy way faster than Overeem did to the same guy years ago, Carwin lost to the joke that is Lesnar. Barnett has been caught roiding who knows how many times and hasn't fought a relevant fight in years. It goes both ways man. Overeem definitely deserves his top 10 spot.

No shit Reem is wrecking them, they are not very good.

Fedor, Cain, Carwin and Brock would also smash everyone Reem has beaten as a MMA HW.