NBC Acknowledges Gun Control Not Going Well

In the aftermath of the Newtown massacre, gun control was ground zero in American politics, captivating the public and politicos alike. It flared again late last month after a gunman killed 12 people at the Washington Navy Yard.
But now, as the first anniversary of Newtown approaches, the forces for gun control have little to celebrate, a lot to mourn and scant hope of change in the near term. On the front lines, activists say they are demoralized and adrift, the movement fraying at the roots as its leaders struggle to reignite a fading national moment for change.
“It’s not going well at all,” says Sally Christ, 56, a donor to Americans for Responsible Solutions, a major gun-control lobby launched this year by former Arizona congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords. Two months ago, she and other supporters celebrated on the waterfront in Portland, Maine, noshing on lobster and looking toward a strong push for gun reform legislation this fall—a push that hasn’t materialized and, thanks to Obamacare and Congress, probably won’t.

That’s a stark change from almost a year ago. A troubled young man had just killed 20 students and six adult staff at Sandy Hook Elementary School, opening fire with a semi-automatic arsenal. The 2007 Virginia Tech shooting was bloodier, but Newtown and its young victims struck a special nerve. President Obama pledged to put “everything I’ve got” behind reforms, proposing the broadest gun control legislation in decades, and the groundswell of public support doubled the size of the two largest gun control lobbies in America, The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence and Mayors Against Illegal Guns.
It also gave rise to a third lobby: Americans for Responsible Solutions. Giffords pitched the group as a counterbalance to the National Rifle Association, one with “millions” of supporters and cash to match the clout of the opposition. “Legislators will no longer have reason to fear the gun lobby,” she promised in an editorial announcing the organization. “Fight, fight, fight” she added in a poignant stump speech over the summer, her words slurred by the path of an assassin’s bullet she survived in 2011.
But this seemingly unbeatable political coalition—three deep-pocketed groups, allied with a sitting president, seemingly aligned with a huge majority of Americans—enters the fall on a low ebb that seemed unimaginable just a few months ago. “It’s not important enough, sadly,” says Johnathan Abbinett, 60, a founding member of the Nevada chapter of Americans for Responsible solutions. His chapter colleague Christian Gerlach, 26, isn’t even sure the chapter exists any more. “I only went to that first meeting,” he says, before changing the subject. “I’m actually getting ready for Obamacare. I’m a coordinator.”

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Yeah, no support plus NRA power plus 2nd amendment gives those groups n.ot much chance. We can argue whether they have a point or not, but thyy have chance against the NRA. Phone Post

Title misleading. NBC doesn't acknowledge anything. Nor do they have a role to play in gun control. They simply report news.

The Americans for Responsible Solutions is saying that its having difficulty getting congressional support and raising money.

That has very little to do with whether the act of controlling how people get guns is working or not. And it doesn't mean NBC has a stake in the outcome.

"...seemingly aligned with a huge majority of Americans"

See, that's the thing. It's not. Most Americans don't actually support more gun control laws. That's ultimately why these movements are failing.

"I cant believe we didnt exploit peoples emotions enough and parley these public tragedies in to ineffectual laws! I hope there is another mass shooting soon so we can get some traction"


- Gun grabbers.

For the meantime we in New York State are stuck with the SAFE Act, which hopefully the Courts will throw out.

PUBLIC's_bsc_in_my_bloodyfluid - "I cant believe we didnt exploit peoples emotions enough and parley these public tragedies in to ineffectual laws! I hope there is another mass shooting soon so we can get some traction"


- Gun grabbers.
I'm a gun supported, and I'm surprised they weren't able to capitalize on the tragedy more than they did. Phone Post 3.0

steve85uk - 

Yeah, no support plus NRA power plus 2nd amendment gives those groups n.ot much chance. We can argue whether they have a point or not, but thyy have chance against the NRA. Phone Post


The biggest power the NRA has is not money but that pro gun people will get up and vote.

They have something to lose. And with laws like the one in Cali trying to say any semi auto with a magazine is an assault rifle people can see the goal of gun laws.

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One rifle is a "semi-automatic arsenal?"  



Giffords of all people, being from Arizona, should know the impossibility of gun control.  My cynical side suspects her non-profit was started as an income means since she can take a salary from it as an adminstrator and spokesperson.  



"Title misleading. NBC doesn't acknowledge anything.  They simply report news."



Reporting is acknowledging.  An antonym of acknowledge is "ignore."    



OP is implying that NBC is acknowledging its own failure push gun control. But It's actually a specific person from a specific group that is making the statement. For all we know NBC thinks its going perfectly well or has no opinion at all.

The gun grabbers have made the NRA and gun manufactures tons of money.

The new strategy from liberals is to not talk about gun control after mass shootings. The stats are showing while gunner purchases are up they are being purchased by a smaller group of people. Phone Post 3.0

Unseen - The gun grabbers have made the NRA and gun manufactures tons of money.

The new strategy from liberals is to not talk about gun control after mass shootings. The stats are showing while gunner purchases are up they are being purchased by a smaller group of people. Phone Post 3.0

Well you cant really get much of a circlejerk going when the most recent shooting was at a basically gun free army base, in Washington DC that has ultra strict gun laws by a guy with joe biden endorsed shotgun who not only passed background checks, but security clearance as well.

steve85uk - 

Yeah, no support plus NRA power plus 2nd amendment gives those groups n.ot much chance. We can argue whether they have a point or not, but thyy have chance against the NRA. Phone Post


Who spent more money in the Colorado recall elections, the NRA or anti-gun opponents?

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steve85uk - 

Yeah, no support plus NRA power plus 2nd amendment gives those groups n.ot much chance. We can argue whether they have a point or not, but thyy have chance against the NRA. Phone Post


Who spent more money in the Colorado recall elections, the NRA or anti-gun opponents?


http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/red-pill-blue-bill/2013/sep/2/colorado-recalls-draw-large-outside-donations/

Michael Bloomberg among liberal donors to Colo. recall defense funds

Monday, September 2, 2013

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo., September 2, 2013 — As voting begins in the first-ever recall of two Colorado senators, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and others have dumped large donations into the defense efforts of Senators Morse (Colorado Springs) and Giron (Pueblo).

According to Valerie Richardson, who has been following the money trail for The Washington Times, Bloomberg sent $350,000 to Taxpayers for Responsible Government, an “issue committee” formed less than a month ago by Democratic fundraiser Julie Wells. Billionaire Eli Broad of Los Angeles contributed $250,000 to the committee. The committee then donated $420,000 to the two defense campaigns.

The Democrats are even importing their fundraisers from out of state.

Julie Wells is the registered agent for more than two dozen groups raising and spending millions to benefit Democrats. She lives in Cadiz, Kentucky. She was instrumental in raising money for Morse’s 2010 reelection campaign.

Expect more of the same: When the recall efforts were first announced in March, almost $1 million was pledged to defend each of the targets, including Sen. Evie Hudak. Petitions calling for Hudak’s recall were never turned in.

The two defense committees have now received more than $600,000 each, the vast majority from such large donations. By contrast, the two recall committees have operated on a shoestring but have wide popular appeal.

The peasants are revolting and the patricians of the coasts don’t like it. They can’t send in armed troops to put down the rebellion so they’re flooding the airwaves with negative advertising and the streets with hired walkers instead.

How is all this possible?

Campaign finance reform in 2002 limited the amount of money you could contribute to a candidate. It also left huge loopholes for third-party issue committees and non-profit “educational” organizations. So while you may contribute up to $400 to any candidate in a Colorado election and you must register if you give anything over $20, billionaires like Bloomberg and Broad can give more than half a million dollars to a committee.

Democrats were quick to figure out that in order to win, all they needed to do was form supposedly independent organizations to collect as much money as they wanted. Republicans, by contrast, were fairly clueless. Furthermore, as Wells’ Taxpayers for Responsible Government shows, these organizations can be set up and even taken down fairly quickly as needed. Sometimes they dissolve before statutory reporting deadlines, making them totally unaccountable.

While this arrangement is great for people like Bloomberg and George Soros who fund them, it is not so good for politicians or for the American people and self-government. Whoever controls the money controls the message — and increasingly, the policy agenda itself.

The recalls are not run-of-the-mill elections, however. The question is not who the people should elect, but rather whether their elected officials are truly representative of the electorate. This is where the Democrat playbook begins to fall apart. You can use your wealth to elect a politician amenable to your point of view. You can promise that politician “top cover” when he or she enacts your agenda against the will of the people.

But you can’t make the people like it.

And when they don’t like it, they can initiate a recall — ironically a Progressive-era reform designed to wrest control of parties from the centralized control of the party elites of the day.

As Yogi Berra said, “It’s déjà vu all over again.”


The peasants are revolting and the patricians of the coasts don’t like it.

are they really trying to characterize the anti-gun control movement as the one driven by special interests and money? lol

this is one of the few areas of Republican politics that isn't

JudOWNED - "...seemingly aligned with a huge majority of Americans"

See, that's the thing. It's not. Most Americans don't actually support more gun control laws. That's ultimately why these movements are failing.
This. They still basically trying to push mind programming with bullshit remarks and bullshit number. They list all these massacres, still don't matter, we have guns to protect ourselves from the government if need be, it's our damn constitutional right

"Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom."

-- John F. Kennedy


The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so.

-- Hitler, April 11 1942 Phone Post 3.0

Dark Knight - 
steve85uk - 

Yeah, no support plus NRA power plus 2nd amendment gives those groups n.ot much chance. We can argue whether they have a point or not, but thyy have chance against the NRA. Phone Post


The biggest power the NRA has is not money but that pro gun people will get up and vote.

They have something to lose. And with laws like the one in Cali trying to say any semi auto with a magazine is an assault rifle people can see the goal of gun laws.

Exactly... I am not an NRA member and probably never will be but I do vote when my individual rights are at play.

Unseen - The stats are showing while gunner purchases are up they are being purchased by a smaller group of people.


So we keep being told, yet inexplicitly CCW requests keep rising year after year.

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