Hey James, give me a shout. My stupid phone lost all my #s. Casey
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I can't tell you how frustrating it is to see "Upstate NY" only to find we're talking just above the city or what have you. Please start up a gym in Utica. Please. There is just nothing here that remotely resembles the grappling I want to do. I absolutely loved what Tai Kai had to offer, it's just too far to travel on a daily basis. Ken, have you given any thought or heard of anyone bringing something to Utica? If I were a business owner I'd run from Utica too but THINK OF THE KIDS!!!!!!
-Karl
sorry cyclops
Just for the record there's been grappling/vale tudo in Oneida for like 3-4 years now. I've been teaching at the Oneida YMCA for quite some time.
Karl give shoot me an email at
I have not talked to you in a while. Len Sonia has a club up there that meets 2-3 times a week
KEN
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