Maybe it only targets idiots that think being asked to wear a mask for everyones safety is some sort of attack on their freedom.
Even typing that made me laugh. Please, one of you retards, explain to me what the beef with masks is? On paper (and everywhere else tbh) it makes no sense. It seems like such a stange thing to make a stand about. I mean, clearly it is more serious than a black being murdered by the police but still...
I also love the way BLM get the blame for the supposed increase in infections but the marches against wearing a mask were being applauded here. How fucking retarded and hypocritical can you racists get?
I won’t be too critical though, as there are plenty of very intelligent people that share the OGs view. Brendan Schaub for instance has been outspoken about not wearing a mask, so I won’t pretend it is only simpletons that think like this.
Wearing a mask in the grocery store makes sense.
Wearing a mask while riding a bike or driving a car, is stupid.
Whatever small percentage of marches against masks are, insignificant compared to the multitude of idiot protestors, looters, and criminals destroying property and – obviously-- spreading the Covid.
Seems like a bit of a straw man. Are people being asked to wear a mask while driving?
Are the people complaining about wearing a mask, fine with wearing it in enclosed spaces but just think places like a car are a bit much? I would argue that isn’t the case at all. (No doubt many have this opinion but they are not the people marching. That is a perfectly reasonable position and one that I don’t think any government has argued against)
Why do people make arguments like this? You surely don’t believe what you just typed?
It’s like when racists spend their waking hours spoouting racist shit but don’t want to be known as a racist, so try to dress it up with every excuse and reason in the world.
If your position is respectable, why the need to dress it up? If it isn’t, why not address that?
I wasn’t attempting to create a strawman.
I was simply stating my positions on masks.
So I’m not dressing anything up.
But the rare instance of people marching against masks, pales in comparison to the mobs of protestors and criminal looters that have plagued this country for the past several weeks.
Perhaps this isn’t about you. Like I said, the stuff you said is just standard stuff so I don’t really understand why you responded. I am guessing you were not marching about having to wear a mask / social distance / lockdown?
As for protesters and criminal looters, I can’t really respond to that in one go as they are two completely different things that you have decided to throw together.
Criminals are criminals (I guesss I am specfically talking about looters and violent protesters). They are called criminals because they have committed a crime. They should be punished as a criminal. I can’t really say any more there.
Protesters are different. I don’t know about how rare any instances were for either group. I do know:
One group were pissed off because they were being asked to co-operate with their neighbours, friends and relatives and wear a mask or practice social distancing etc with the aim of preventing thousands of deaths.
The other group were upset because they had seen a black man murdered by police, for no reason at all, while offering no threat whatsoever on Youtube. (With the understanding that this happens and the police always get away with it.)
Personally I wasn’t trying to protest for either reason. Not the time, not the place for me.
(BLM is also complete bullshit on a certain level, I don’t view the actual Org any differently than a lot of people on this site do but many of the people marching were just normal folk and not part of any crazy LBGT Alien, pedo socialist group.)
However, one group was behaving far more rationally and understandibly than the other.
I’m glad you at least admit BLM is bullshit.
Beyond that… I’m sensing we are not generally on the same side of these issues – although we might each be closer to the middle than extreme outliers.
If that is the case – then rational conversation between people like us, who generally disagree but are willing to seek common ground – is a good thing.
I am not for a Federal mask mandate.
Too much grey area there, with too much ground to cover.
Plenty of rural communities where it’s pointless. People walking their dogs with nobody else around them, etc.
I am in favor of state/local mandates, assuming they reasonable.
Social distancing is a no-brainer.
I think the first 2 weeks was fine.
The month after that I think has been proven to have been overkill.
Any further “lockdowns” would IMO be destructive and absurd.
I am more in favor of common sense social distancing, masks when and where appropriate, and aggressively protecting the most vulnerable to Covid.
Continuing to harm the economy on a large scale isn’t going to do anybody any good.
I lump the looters together with the protestors, because the lines are truly blurred.
I support the right to peacefully protest (without blocking traffic).
But as soon as the first vandalism occured – those who were truly “peaceful”, should have bailed.
IMO, in many cases, the ones not actively involved in the looting and vandalism-- were cheering the criminal behavior on – and have talked themselves in to justifying it.
Obviously, this wouldn’t apply to everyone.
There is a larger anti-police narrative happening that, IMO, is far more destructive than the very small percentage of “racist” cops.
That is clearly a bigger problem for American society, and one that should be fought against.
People getting attacked for saying “Blue lives matter” or “all lives matter”, is beyond absurd.
But the supposed anti-racist “movement”, has allowed themselves to be represented by extremists-- who are realistically just as racist as those they claim to protest against.
It’s become a giant shit show.
Why don’t people protest the double digit killings in Chicago every weekend?
Or the children killed by stray bullets?
So yeah… I kind of do lump the protestors and looters together.
Ot si much in terms of criminality – but in terms of what they represent.
If the peaceful protestors have truly good intentions – they would see that their cause has been both politicized and hijacked-- and they would STOP protesting, because the message is now tainted.
I could go on and on… but its basically the way I see it.
And I do not agree that racist police kill black people all the time and get away with it – at least not on the level you seem to be implying.
But that doesn’t mean I’m against police reform either.
That’s just a whole other rabbit hole of a conversation though…