NHB being Banned in Washington Sta

The career politicians are stealing your freedom one law at a time, people need to wake up.

"blame bush and the rest of the moral majority"

Bush has nothing to do with it. Hell his brother (our state governor) welcomed the sport into Florida with open arms.

read my previous post.....this thread is complete

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MMA has not been banned in Washington State. NHB doesn't exist anymore. MMA is the sport we are dealing with. Hence MMA.tv and stuff

Fuck I posted this a week and got one reply... (ducks head and walks bitterly away from computer)

I know it's horseshit, but Chris, have you seen the video? Respond on streetfight thread.

how are they going to ban it on the reservation? even if it did get banned in the state. they can't say nothing about the tribe, it would be another lawsuit between the state and the tribe.

The reservation is independent. They couldn't ban it there. Hell, the reservation could legalize prostitution and the state couldn't do a damn thing.

Here in Utah a reservation wanted to contract with Envirocare to store low-level nuclear waste from a site in New Jersey. The state, which was strongly against the move, couldn't do a damn thing about the actual storage . . . so they banned the transportation of the material across state funded roads which essentially killed the reservations plan.

I have to admit that I am somewhat ignorant about what a reservation can or can't do, since I've never lived on a reservation, but I can say that as far as I understand the reservations are independent protectarates with limited obligations and responsibilities to local and federal authorities. An MMA event would not, again IMO, cross the any sort of a line that would bring local and or federal officials authority even into consideration.

They could ban it on the reservations but enforcing such a ban is another thing. In Arizona the local commission cant say or do anything to someone who wants to promote a show on the reservations. If they banned mma in Arizona tomorrow the shows would still go on the reservations without missing a beat.

Well, I'm not a lawyer, and the Indian Reservation thing came up in discussions with some other people. I'm saying I don't know shit about the reservation thing, so take it with a grain of salt.

So, that being said, this bill has made some pretty serious changes in the last week. They have added provisions for "Officially Sanctioned" martial Arts events (specifically mentioning the UFCF) and added verbiage that allowed more flexibility for the DOL (dept of licensing) to recognize an organization who sanctioned events.

The way this bill reads now, it outlaws events designed with the goal for the winner to intentionally injure an opponent (knockouts by stikes are not intentionally trying to injure somebody by the state's definintion.) The definitions directly from the passed bill on this topic:

"(11) "Martial arts" means a type of boxing including sumo, judo, karate, kung fu, tae kwon do, pankration, muay thai, or other forms of full-contact martial arts or self-defense conducted on a full-contact basis {+ where weapons are not used and the participants utilize kicks, punches, blows, or other techniques with the intent not to injure or disable an opponent, but to defeat an opponent or win by decision, knockout, technical knockout, or submission +}.
(12) {+ "No holds barred fighting," also known as "frontier fighting" and "extreme fighting," means a contest, exhibition, or match between contestants where any part of the contestant's body may be used as a weapon or any means of fighting may be used with the specific purpose to intentionally injure the other contestant in such a manner that they may not defend themselves and a winner is declared. Rules may or may not be used."

Basically (11) is allowed, (12) is not. The difference being the object of the encounter cannot be to injure somebody else in order to win.

The part that scared me most about this bill was that until recently, the legislation was marching through completely uncontested. I just found out about it last weekend, and I follow the sport reasonably closely.

Another funny part of this, was that testimony was provided in support by numerous Boxing organizations, but no martial arts organizations/supporters. I wonder who helped form the original versions of the bill (which were very unfriendly to NHB). Does $ play into this? uh huh.

Bill passed the state legislature and senate, only waiting on Govenor's signature to make law. Effective immediately up on his signature.

I agree with Stevekt
ttt for frontier fighting

it all ways a fight with the state and the federal gov. on what limits the tribe has. it boils down on the entites wanting to have control over certain things. the tribe argues its status as a sovereign nation and what it controls in the recognized tribal lands. our casino was supposed to get an event center in the expansion plans. it got cut out at the last minute. i was hoping to have someone come out and run shows on a regular basis.

LeroyJ - Hallman and I (with the help of lobbyist, Bob Mack) wrote letters to the Senators that sponsored the bill, and those that were on the committee that read it. They added a bit in the new defition of 'amateur event' part to include: (g) Any similar organization recognized by the department as exclusively or primarily dedicated to advancing the sport of amateur boxing, kickboxing, or martial arts, as those sports are defined in this section (that's us with USA Mixed Martial Arts).

We just held a USA-MMA: Rock-n-Rumble in Ellensburg, WA. 6 fights, 2 bands, 6 kegs & 400 of our closest friends. We also had two hotties Jello Wrestling (what a blessed mess!).

Watch for the USA-MMA: Rock-N-Rumble Tour at a college town near you.

When it comes to dealing with government, Matt Lindland said it best, "The state athletic commission charges application fees for fighters, cornermen, judges, referees and even timekeepers. Then they take 6% of the gate receipts. As government officials they refer to it as 'Licensing fees'....in the private sector it's called extortion."