No peanuts in schools, but non-vacs kids are ok?

King Trav - My kids aren't allowed to bring peanuts or other nuts to school because of allergy fears. Yet kids who haven't been vaccinated can go.

This doesn't make sense to me. Aren't the unvaccinated kids as much of a danger to kids with compromised immune systems as peanut butter sandwiches are to kids with nut allergies? Phone Post 3.0


200K people arrive in the USA every day.



Either for vacation, work, to stay, etc... You don't live in a bubble, unless you never leave the house, your kids will be around kids who weren't vaccinated.



 



 

Beards - Riddle me this- if your child is vaccinated what threat is an unvaccinated child to yours?
My kids are vaccinated. There is a little one in their school who's battling cancer right now. Her immune system is compromised. Phone Post 3.0

Charizard - Well they wont die on the spot shithead Phone Post 3.0
Nope, they don't, but measles would be a bad way to die too, my friend. Phone Post 3.0

I saw the same stupid shit posted on FB, way to be original OP. Phone Post 3.0

Brockback Mountain - Because you can ban a item from public education, you cant ban a person from public education.
That makes sense. Phone Post 3.0

Axe Murderer 28 - I saw the same stupid shit posted on FB, way to be original OP. Phone Post 3.0
I don't Facebook. Haha. I stole it from a lady on the radio. Phone Post 3.0

I just took my kids to Disneyland! That's ground zero for measles. BOOM! Phone Post 3.0

12SixElbow - 
King Trav - My kids aren't allowed to bring peanuts or other nuts to school because of allergy fears. Yet kids who haven't been vaccinated can go.

This doesn't make sense to me. Aren't the unvaccinated kids as much of a danger to kids with compromised immune systems as peanut butter sandwiches are to kids with nut allergies? Phone Post 3.0


200K people arrive in the USA every day.



Either for vacation, work, to stay, etc... You don't live in a bubble, unless you never leave the house, your kids will be around kids who weren't vaccinated.



 



 


herd immunity relies on as many people as possible getting vaccinated. if everyone just refuses to get vaccinated because there are others who are not vaccinated the entire system breaks down.

UGCTT_mojodmonky -
12SixElbow - 
King Trav - My kids aren't allowed to bring peanuts or other nuts to school because of allergy fears. Yet kids who haven't been vaccinated can go.

This doesn't make sense to me. Aren't the unvaccinated kids as much of a danger to kids with compromised immune systems as peanut butter sandwiches are to kids with nut allergies? Phone Post 3.0


200K people arrive in the USA every day.



Either for vacation, work, to stay, etc... You don't live in a bubble, unless you never leave the house, your kids will be around kids who weren't vaccinated.



 



 


herd immunity relies on as many people as possible getting vaccinated. if everyone just refuses to get vaccinated because there are others who are not vaccinated the entire system breaks down.
I don't understand that. Phone Post 3.0

Aaronrodgers=GOAT - You've made threads about this weird ass school before haven't you ? Phone Post 3.0
Maybe. It's in the hippy dippy artsy fartsy part of town.

Lots of helicopter parents.

It's the closest French immersion that wasn't a catholic school to our house, so my kids go there.

My beliefs and the other parents beliefs don't always mesh. Phone Post 3.0

King Trav - 
UGCTT_mojodmonky -
12SixElbow - 
King Trav - My kids aren't allowed to bring peanuts or other nuts to school because of allergy fears. Yet kids who haven't been vaccinated can go.

This doesn't make sense to me. Aren't the unvaccinated kids as much of a danger to kids with compromised immune systems as peanut butter sandwiches are to kids with nut allergies? Phone Post 3.0
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            <span class="User-284541" id="userPost52624055"><span class="User-273318" id="userPost52622139">Either for vacation, work, to stay, etc... You don't live in a bubble, unless you never leave the house, your kids will be around kids who weren't vaccinated.</span></span></p>
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    <span class="User-284541" id="userPost52624055">herd immunity relies on as many people as possible getting vaccinated. if everyone just refuses to get vaccinated because there are others who are not vaccinated the entire system breaks down.</span></blockquote>
<span class="User-284541" id="userPost52624055">I don't understand that. <img alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" src="/images/phone/apple.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></span></blockquote>

 

"Herd immunity" is a term that basically means if enough people are vaccinated, a vaccination "shield" forms and it is very difficult for a disease to get a foothold in a population. (e.g., If a sick person is surrounded by vaccinated people, there is no one the disease can spread to. It is essentilly contained to the one person.) Thus even the relatively few unvaccinated people are safe thanks to so many other people being vaccinated. If there are not enough people vaccinated and herd immunity cannot form, the shield is vulnerable and a disease has a much easier time penetrating the shield and infecting those who are unvaccinated.

FYI: some people cannot be vaccinated because they are too young or have compromised immune systems. Some people can get sick even if they've been vaccinated. So, the morons who refuse to vaccinate their children put innocent people at risk who cannot be vaccinated. The morons are weakening the herd immunity shield thanks to their selfishness and reliance on youtube videos.

Thanks The People's Knee.

I understand now.

Maybe the question should be more along the lines of...is a parent who sends their kid to school with a peanut butter and jam sammich more/less/equally irresponsible as a parent who chooses to not vaccinate their kids and send them to school? Phone Post 3.0

King Trav - Thanks The People's Knee.

I understand now.

Maybe the question should be more along the lines of...is a parent who sends their kid to school with a peanut butter and jam sammich more/less/equally irresponsible as a parent who chooses to not vaccinate their kids and send them to school? Phone Post 3.0

 

Can't really answer your question, but I look at it this way: For whatever reason, the number of kids with peanut allergies has risen since I was a child. As we all know, some people have the allergy so bad that even a whiff of peanut butter can put them in the emergency room or kill them. 

For many people, we grew up on peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, we like them, they're easy to make for our own kids, and it's difficult to imagine prohibiting them at school. But there is no "right" to have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich at school and if there is a legit potential risk that some kids might get seriously sick because of peanut allergy, I can't see digging in my heels and announcing "MY KID WILL EAT PEANUT BUTTER SANDWICHES FOR LUNCH!"  Not worth it and imagine knowing that you (the general "you" - not talking about King Trav) were the asshole who put some other kid in the hospital because your kid HAD TO HAVE a PB&J sammich.

Feed your kid peanut butter AT HOME every day if you want. Is it such a sacrifice to give your kid a bologna sammich for school instead?

There is a similarity between vaccinations and not giving your kid peanut butter: Unlike car accidents, etc., vaccinations and making a bologna sandwich for school are things you can actually control and take only about 30 seconds to do. There are vastly more important fish to fry in the universe. Sometimes you have to be a good citizen and suffer the horrible inconveninece of a bologna sammich and an injection and stop all the grandstanding.

ksacs revenge - "I am not pro anti vax."

Take that, English language! And don't get up!
I don't not not oppose the pro anti vaxers Phone Post 3.0

The People's Knee -
King Trav - Thanks The People's Knee.

I understand now.

Maybe the question should be more along the lines of...is a parent who sends their kid to school with a peanut butter and jam sammich more/less/equally irresponsible as a parent who chooses to not vaccinate their kids and send them to school? Phone Post 3.0

 

Can't really answer your question, but I look at it this way: For whatever reason, the number of kids with peanut allergies has risen since I was a child. As we all know, some people have the allergy so bad that even a whiff of peanut butter can put them in the emergency room or kill them. 

For many people, we grew up on peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, we like them, they're easy to make for our own kids, and it's difficult to imagine prohibiting them at school. But there is no "right" to have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich at school and if there is a legit potential risk that some kids might get seriously sick because of peanut allergy, I can't see digging in my heels and announcing "MY KID WILL EAT PEANUT BUTTER SANDWICHES FOR LUNCH!"  Not worth it and imagine knowing that you (the general "you" - not talking about King Trav) were the asshole who put some other kid in the hospital because your kid HAD TO HAVE a PB&J sammich.

Feed your kid peanut butter AT HOME every day if you want. Is it such a sacrifice to give your kid a bologna sammich for school instead?


There is a similarity between vaccinations and not giving your kid peanut butter: Unlike car accidents, etc., vaccinations and making a bologna sandwich for school are things you can actually control and take only about 30 seconds to do. There are vastly more important fish to fry in the universe. Sometimes you have to be a good citizen and suffer the horrible inconveninece of a bologna sammich and an injection and stop all the grandstanding.

This is probably one of the best statements on the subject I've heard or read. I appreciate your point of view. Thanks for the well thought out answer The People's Knee.

My kids pack their own lunch, and they are very conscientious about nut allergies. They read labels and if unsure they'll err on the side of caution and not take something to school.

We've raised them to care about their community and be good members of society.

They are also both vaccinated.

Like I said. The lady on the radio made this comparison and I thought I'd see what you animals on the OG had to say about it.

I think that both not immunising your child, and sending peanut butter sammiches to school are fairly irresponsible things to do. Phone Post 3.0

King Trav - 
The People's Knee -
King Trav - Thanks The People's Knee.

I understand now.

Maybe the question should be more along the lines of...is a parent who sends their kid to school with a peanut butter and jam sammich more/less/equally irresponsible as a parent who chooses to not vaccinate their kids and send them to school? Phone Post 3.0

 

Can't really answer your question, but I look at it this way: For whatever reason, the number of kids with peanut allergies has risen since I was a child. As we all know, some people have the allergy so bad that even a whiff of peanut butter can put them in the emergency room or kill them. 

For many people, we grew up on peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, we like them, they're easy to make for our own kids, and it's difficult to imagine prohibiting them at school. But there is no "right" to have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich at school and if there is a legit potential risk that some kids might get seriously sick because of peanut allergy, I can't see digging in my heels and announcing "MY KID WILL EAT PEANUT BUTTER SANDWICHES FOR LUNCH!"  Not worth it and imagine knowing that you (the general "you" - not talking about King Trav) were the asshole who put some other kid in the hospital because your kid HAD TO HAVE a PB&J sammich.

Feed your kid peanut butter AT HOME every day if you want. Is it such a sacrifice to give your kid a bologna sammich for school instead?

There is a similarity between vaccinations and not giving your kid peanut butter: Unlike car accidents, etc., vaccinations and making a bologna sandwich for school are things you can actually control and take only about 30 seconds to do. There are vastly more important fish to fry in the universe. Sometimes you have to be a good citizen and suffer the horrible inconveninece of a bologna sammich and an injection and stop all the grandstanding.

This is probably one of the best statements on the subject I've heard or read. I appreciate your point of view. Thanks for the well thought out answer The People's Knee.

My kids pack their own lunch, and they are very conscientious about nut allergies. They read labels and if unsure they'll err on the side of caution and not take something to school.

We've raised them to care about their community and be good members of society.

They are also both vaccinated.

Like I said. The lady on the radio made this comparison and I thought I'd see what you animals on the OG had to say about it.

I think that both not immunising your child, and sending peanut butter sammiches to school are fairly irresponsible things to do. Phone Post 3.0

Thanks. Agreed with what you've done with your kids. Same for me. Voted up.

In my opinion, not immunizing your child is like giving them a peanut butter sandwich when you know they are allergic.

It's purposefully putting your child in harms way of something that can easily be avoided.

Mihow - "I think that both not immunising your child, and sending peanut butter sammiches to school are fairly irresponsible things to do."

What a bunch of psychopath insane people we Americans have turned into.


Let me guess... The pussification of America continues? yawn



How dare we consider the health of our neighbors and not just our own selfish desires!



PEANUTBUTTER NOW! PEANUTBUTTER TOMORROW! PEANUTBUTTER FOREVER!



 

Mihow - 
The People's Knee - 
Mihow - "I think that both not immunising your child, and sending peanut butter sammiches to school are fairly irresponsible things to do."

What a bunch of psychopath insane people we Americans have turned into.


Let me guess... The pussification of America continues? yawn



How dare we consider the health of our neighbors and not just our own selfish desires!



PEANUTBUTTER NOW! PEANUTBUTTER TOMORROW! PEANUTBUTTER FOREVER!



 


Woah, someone on the Internet putting words into peoples mou ... err posts. How shocking!

Here's a thought: if you have a peanut allergy so bad that you can die in minutes, don't eat other people's peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

And Mihow solves another problem!

"How dare we consider the health of our neighbors and not just our own selfish desires!"

What does this even mean in the context of this thread? I ask because unlike you i'm not going to make belief your thoughts!

people with severe peanut allergies don't have to eat peanuts to suffer from the allergy. In certain cases, even the scent of peanuts will do it. Thus, your "solution" doesn't work. Don't you remember the case a couple of years ago of the girl who died from the allergy after having merely kissed her boyfriend who earlier had eaten peanut butter?

Mihow - "I think that both not immunising your child, and sending peanut butter sammiches to school are fairly irresponsible things to do."

What a bunch of psychopath insane people we Americans have turned into.
I guess I should be a little more thorough with my statement.

I think that both not immunising your child, and sending peanut butter sammiches to a school with known nut allergies are fairly irresponsible things to do.

Better? Phone Post 3.0